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Custom R36 Cold Air RAM intake - Almost $0 DIY or small fee to get it done

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  • #16
    Eurobahn,
    I have an 08 model as well so mine will be the same as yours. I see that you have a BMC filter there. Make any difference? The reason I ask is that I bought one second hand for quite a reasonable price but I am waiting to purchase a cleaner kit before I put it in mine. Just curious as to whether they make any difference. Main difference is maybe fuel economy but you never know!!
    2013 Touareg V8TDi - Black, LED Interior Mods, LED Projector "VW" Door Courtesy Lights, 20" VW Mountain Rims with A/T Tyres, Pioneer SX Roof Platform with some 4x4 accessories and a whole lotta torque

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    • #17
      Is there any difference betw the BMC & K&N? I've just bought a Passat CC V6 with K&N fitted. There are rumours, don't know if proven, that the oiled cotton filters aren't safe because, according to rumour, they let more dust in by virtue of their higher airflow.

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      • #18
        I bought my BMC filter for $50 new. It works fine but no real noticeable power gain to rave about !

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        • #19
          I just examined a GruppeM intake. Besides sound, and a slightly better airflow, these are NOT cold air Ram intakes. They are not sealed from engine bay heat. Ram intakes, by definition, force cold air into intake. They have to be in a position of high air pressure as you drive and be SEALED. The GruppeM is neither a cold air, nor Ram intake!!! I think I'm going to design and make a proper high performance intake for the R36, Passat CC V6, CC V6 2012+, and Passat V6 .
          Just need to find a manufacturer. Worldwide potential.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Elmura View Post
            I just examined a GruppeM intake. Besides sound, and a slightly better airflow, these are NOT cold air Ram intakes. They are not sealed from engine bay heat. Ram intakes, by definition, force cold air into intake. They have to be in a position of high air pressure as you drive and be SEALED. The GruppeM is neither a cold air, nor Ram intake!!! I think I'm going to design and make a proper high performance intake for the R36, Passat CC V6, CC V6 2012+, and Passat V6 .
            Just need to find a manufacturer. Worldwide potential.
            Colour me interested in the first batch...
            2011 Skoda Octavia vRS TDI DSG wagon|Revo Stage 1|Race Blue|Leather|Dynamic Xenons w 6000K|9w7 BT|THA475 Amp+active sub|Whiteline ALK|RVC|
            2009 R36 wagon|Biscay Blue|RVC|Tailgate|ECU and DSG tune|LED DRL/Indicators|3D colour cluster|Quad LED tail rings|Climatronics upgrade|Dynaudio retrofit|B7 RLine Flat Steering Wheel|3AA CCM|TPMS Direct|B7 Adaptive Cruise with Front Assist|Discover Media retrofit|PLA 2.0|Lane Assist|BCM retrofit|High Beam Assist|DQ500

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            • #21
              What about the one Forge makes for the R32 apparently fit the R36 as well?
              2009 Volkswagen R36 Wagon
              1968 Audi F103 75L Coupe
              1966 Volkswagen Beetle Deluxe

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              • #22
                Updated on next post
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                Last edited by Elmura; 04-05-2015, 12:26 PM.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by XXX-1.8T View Post
                  What about the one Forge makes for the R32 apparently fit the R36 as well?
                  Thanks for pointing this one out. Although, I haven't found a kit to suit the R36 / CC V6 yet. If you know of such, I'd like to review it. I did find this image and it looks quite decent. The elbow is a bit sharp and the air filter may not have large enough surface area, but is much better than the GruppeM and EvoMs as it is a proper Cold Air intake and, (appears to be) a RAM intake.

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                  • #24
                    They use K&N panel filter
                    2009 Volkswagen R36 Wagon
                    1968 Audi F103 75L Coupe
                    1966 Volkswagen Beetle Deluxe

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                    • #25
                      Update:


                      Further proof that removing the wire mesh behind the plastic grille is a good idea, I just pulled my (recently acquired) MY12 Passat CC V6 intake apart to perform the same operation to find it had no wire mesh in the MAF sensor! The MAF sensor is different from the R36 and is an update for the BWS engine.

                      As a further minor enhancement to the Elmura Cold Air RAM intake mod, I removed the water drain plug at the front base of the airbox and filled it with silicone, along with the two small holes that hold the plug.

                      I also double side taped the intake mouth / scoop to the back of the car's front grille to seal off the incoming air and reduce turbulence. And, I used wide tape to seal the gaps further behind, again, for aerodynamics.

                      PS - While the mods are fiddly and individually have minor benefit, they all add up to give benefits similar to a good aftermarket cold air intake.

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                      • #26
                        That's not really proof it's a good idea, as you just said the sensor is different. Despite your doubts I would still suggest that the sensor calibration would be dependant on the presence of the grille. IMO.
                        '07 Touareg V6 TDI with air suspension
                        '98 Mk3 Cabriolet 2.0 8V
                        '99 A4 Quattro 1.8T

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                        • #27
                          Here are some Diagrams to show you what the main modification is and how it benefits. The diagrams are not to scale, they'e a rough cross section going by appearance only.
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                          • #28
                            Hi Elmura, you have pm

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                            • #29
                              Hi Elmura & fellow admirers, how did you go with the Forge and/or other comparisons to your design since the diagrams compare the stock to Elmura?
                              Any further updates or adjustments?


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                              • #30
                                Might have to try this mod on my CC.

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