DSG performance - Need a Physio?

[drbass]

Hi vanDub,

Thanks for the advice. Had already tried that previously but don't really see much difference.

Mind you, since this thread was started I've been much more conscious about the whole thing, and it seems that it is not that bad after all. Or maybe it's the full moon coming up, who knows !

Seeya,
Michael

[OilBurna]

if not happy perhaps best to get dealer to check it out. mine is fine, (103kw) version can occasionally be a bit snappy if you take off in a hurry, but wouldn't describe it as jerky, probably more firmish. I leave autohold off as well unless I really need it. if you are in cbd area welcome to try and see if any difference. Yes a manual would have been nice but no choice in the Passat wagon.

[3Putt]

I agree, the throttle is so touchy it make smooth takeoffs hard.

But its a small price to pay for what i belive is the best bit of kit i've ever had on a car - the DSG! What a hoot it is. Diving into roundabouts with a couple of flips on the downshifter, with the accompanying 'blips' on the throttle. As i shift down form 4th to 3rd to 2nd, and the revs blip from 2 to 3 to 4000rpm, i feel like Schuey!

The new M3 'clutchless' transmission (they call it SMG II) is of the same dual clutch design as my VDub! How cool is that! BMW following VW's lead.

And the autohold feature is just brilliant, IMO. Its just another one of the little innovations on the B6 that makes driving so much easier and fun. I drive my wife's Alfa 147 every now and again, and i can't tell you how annoying it is. Hill starts, turning wipers and headlights on, dipping the rearview mirror, pushing the clutch pedal, guessing how far away the car behind me in the parking lot.. all such backward 'nineties' tasks!!

[Lance B]

I agree, the throttle is so touchy it make smooth takeoffs hard.

But its a small price to pay for what i belive is the best bit of kit i've ever had on a car - the DSG! What a hoot it is. Diving into roundabouts with a couple of flips on the downshifter, with the accompanying 'blips' on the throttle. As i shift down form 4th to 3rd to 2nd, and the revs blip from 2 to 3 to 4000rpm, i feel like Schuey!

The new M3 'clutchless' transmission (they call it SMG II) is of the same dual clutch design as my VDub! How cool is that! BMW following VW's lead.

And the autohold feature is just brilliant, IMO. Its just another one of the little innovations on the B6 that makes driving so much easier and fun. I drive my wife's Alfa 147 every now and again, and i can't tell you how annoying it is. Hill starts, turning wipers and headlights on, dipping the rearview mirror, pushing the clutch pedal, guessing how far away the car behind me in the parking lot.. all such backward 'nineties' tasks!!

I couldn't agree more with your sentiments about the DSG. What a fantastic piece of kit it is! I drive in tiptronic mode 99% of the time and it is a real hoot. Seemless power all the way through the gear changes without missing a beat and then being able to change down in a flash.

This is the way autos should function! A few cars back, I had an auto Subaru 3.0lt flat six Outback and it was an awful affair and I vowed never to buy an auto again. The auto never knew which gear you wanted and even in tiptronic you still had to wait until the slush box engaged the gear once you had selected it, which seemed like an erternity whereas the DSG is instantaneous. I will never buy any other type of auto.

As you say, getting in a car without the benefits of DSG, hill start assist, auto wipers, auto headlights and auto dipping rear view mirror really makes it chore and I can't wait to get back into my Passat.

[ranton-inc]

I agree, the throttle is so touchy it make smooth takeoffs hard.

But its a small price to pay for what i belive is the best bit of kit i've ever had on a car - the DSG! What a hoot it is. Diving into roundabouts with a couple of flips on the downshifter, with the accompanying 'blips' on the throttle. As i shift down form 4th to 3rd to 2nd, and the revs blip from 2 to 3 to 4000rpm, i feel like Schuey!

The new M3 'clutchless' transmission (they call it SMG II) is of the same dual clutch design as my VDub! How cool is that! BMW following VW's lead.

And the autohold feature is just brilliant, IMO. Its just another one of the little innovations on the B6 that makes driving so much easier and fun. I drive my wife's Alfa 147 every now and again, and i can't tell you how annoying it is. Hill starts, turning wipers and headlights on, dipping the rearview mirror, pushing the clutch pedal, guessing how far away the car behind me in the parking lot.. all such backward 'nineties' tasks!!

i thought SMGII was around long before VAG DSG?

[richdave]

gonna take the car back to the dealer this week and seeif there is anu ECU update available to aleviate this annoying behavior which I feel spoils the car

[OilBurna]

good luck let us know how you go..

[1_Darkhorse]

I am for the most part happy with the smooth operation of the DSG in my Passat... however I cant master the smooth take off at all and it is really pissing me off! It's a neck jerking experience 98% of the time.

I expect a car of this price/quality to be better than a camry et al.

Is there a trick to getting a smooth take of from a stop?

I've tried with the "Auto hold" on and off. On seems to make some take offs smoother but not all.

I guess if I nailed it at every set of lights it may be less jerky but then I'd go broke filling the tank..

Hey,

we've just clocked up 8,000K's and its only in the last 3, 000 that it has become really annoying. When not careful its as if i'm in a manual with a learner driver.....

The only way i seem to be able to acheive any sort of smooth launch is by putting my foot down somewhat... not ideal when trying to conserve fuel.

I'm almost tempted to take it back to the dealer at this stage. Has anyone done this?

[DiMmY]

Hey,

we've just clocked up 8,000K's and its only in the last 3, 000 that it has become really annoying. When not careful its as if i'm in a manual with a learner driver.....

The only way i seem to be able to acheive any sort of smooth launch is by putting my foot down somewhat... not ideal when trying to conserve fuel.

I'm almost tempted to take it back to the dealer at this stage. Has anyone done this?

When we test drove the R36 I noticed that my dad was having difficulty with this issue as well + the diesel we test drove once.

[blutopless2]

i have a jetta 2.0TSI that i found really annoying with the take off lag also. seemed to be such a pain to get off the line without planting the foot and giving everyone whiplash.

[WestOiler125]

Hi all,

have read the tread and been out for a test run. Mine has done 7000km and although there is some lag at takeoff I certainly have no jerkiness. This is a beautiful gearbox, I just love the way it matches the torque of the diesel and provides drivability for a short revving engine with the six speeds. Mind you, I'm not a revhead, being more of a cruiser, so I don't try to be first off the line.
My bro is an experienced Audi A6 TDI driver and explained that you need to get used to the lag at takeoff, which I think is minor compared to some petrol turbos I drove in the 80s and 90s (eg. WRX).
All in all I love this car.

[tryingavw]

Hi all,
Mine has done 7000km and although there is some lag at takeoff I certainly have no jerkiness. T:

Hi westy. i have ordered the same car as you- wagon, 125kW, granite, leather. ( except including satnav and xenons but not auto tailgate. ) But i only got around to driving the 103kW and did not notice any turbo lag with the 103. have you driven both and does the 125 feel much different? And whilst the 103 felt fine, I'm hoping the 125 has much more urge.

The biggest problem is I ordered late June and am now quoted december delivery !

[snodrogs]

Hi all,

have read the tread and been out for a test run. Mine has done 7000km and although there is some lag at takeoff I certainly have no jerkiness. This is a beautiful gearbox, I just love the way it matches the torque of the diesel and provides drivability for a short revving engine with the six speeds. Mind you, I'm not a revhead, being more of a cruiser, so I don't try to be first off the line.
My bro is an experienced Audi A6 TDI driver and explained that you need to get used to the lag at takeoff, which I think is minor compared to some petrol turbos I drove in the 80s and 90s (eg. WRX).
All in all I love this car.

I agree. I have read a lot of feedback and comments about jerkiness etc on forums including on the VW/Audi UK forums, but I too have got used to the little lag at takeoff, and allow for it. I don't do the quick takeoff from standing start crossing oncoming traffic that I would have done with my previous manual vehicle, but again, you allow for the differences between vehicles...

One of my earlier cars was a 1986 Mazda 929 Turbo (factory Turbo) and the turbo lag was shocking (but it was a beautiful car cruising on the open road). The delay with the Passat turbo is minor in comparison.

After 4000km in this vehicle I am used to the DSG and now I very rarely take off in such a manner that earns me a dirty look from the "boss" in the passenger's seat. She is used to the idiosyncracies of the vehicle and L O V E S it...

I had a 103kW TDi rental in Europe last year, and even at low km with my vehicle, I believe that I can feel the extra torque of the bigger engine. Having said that, if only the 103kW was available when I was looking to purchase, I would have been happy with that too. Great engines and gearbox combination IMHO...

Tringavw, the wait sucks, but it will be worth it!

[tryingavw]

Tringavw, the wait sucks, but it will be worth it!

the waiting really does suck, probably made worse by my adding xenons to the car a month into the deal. plus I'm just about to sell the wife's wagon ( 2000 bmw 528i) so will need to find alternative wheels for 3 months. After I get rid of it i'll hassle the dealer for a golf loaner....

[WestOiler125]

Hi westy. i have ordered the same car as you- wagon, 125kW, granite, leather. ( except including satnav and xenons but not auto tailgate. ) But i only got around to driving the 103kW and did not notice any turbo lag with the 103. have you driven both and does the 125 feel much different? And whilst the 103 felt fine, I'm hoping the 125 has much more urge.

This car has plenty of urge, it reminds me of my supercharged V6 Commodore, but just much more refined, better built and very stylish. I'm sure you will love the 125kW.