DSG performance - Need a Physio?

[guthrie]

There is a reason why people have 2 legs...

Assume you mean left foot braking... Pretty sure the ECU cuts the throttle as soon as you apply any brake pressure.

[STV4SYT]

Anyway, good to see some rain here in Melbourne - that'll keep the traction control busy.

Have a nice weekend,
Michael

Haha, mine is busy even in the dry, i usually turn it off in the rain as it cuts in too much and im pretty used to driving on slippery roads so its more of a hindrance than an aid, esp when trying to pull out of a "T" intersection.

[richdave]

Assume you mean left foot braking... Pretty sure the ECU cuts the throttle as soon as you apply any brake pressure.

Yeah I think you are right on that one...

[Lance B]

I think the DSG was a little more jerky when first new, but I cannot be absolutely certain if it was or not. Whatever, the DSG is nice and smooth now from take off.

[richdave]

I think the DSG was a little more jerky when first new, but I cannot be absolutely certain if it was or not. Whatever, the DSG is nice and smooth now from take off.

How many Km have you done? I have just clocked 6K

[RWK]

Does Passat come with Launch control like the GTi Golf?

[Lance B]

How many Km have you done? I have just clocked 6K

ABout 9,000kms.

[Mischa]

you could take it to the dealer and get them to demonstrate how to take off properly if they cant do it then i guess you could tell them to fix it.

[balkanac]

Assume you mean left foot braking... Pretty sure the ECU cuts the throttle as soon as you apply any brake pressure.

hahaha, no, i ment a clutch pedal!!! DSG is amasing, but its still far off a manual

[greygolf8]

Ive got a golf TDI DSG. In D mode its smooth providing im not flooring it. In S mode, its ok to accelerate up thru the gears, again not leadfooting it. But it gets a bit jerky / clunky around the 'change' speed of 1/2 & 2/3 if your NOT accelerating or braking. Usually it changes down, revs up, then immediatly changes up to 2. This is in Sydney traffic Ive found feathering the throttle to avoid the 1/2 & 2/3 gear changes unless there is a clear run ahead is best.

Ive avoided using the manual DSG change, as I invariably change to the opposite gear I want. Anyone else find this annoying ?

[Lance B]

Ive got a golf TDI DSG. In D mode its smooth providing im not flooring it. In S mode, its ok to accelerate up thru the gears, again not leadfooting it. But it gets a bit jerky / clunky around the 'change' speed of 1/2 & 2/3 if your NOT accelerating or braking. Usually it changes down, revs up, then immediatly changes up to 2. This is in Sydney traffic Ive found feathering the throttle to avoid the 1/2 & 2/3 gear changes unless there is a clear run ahead is best.

Ive avoided using the manual DSG change, as I invariably change to the opposite gear I want. Anyone else find this annoying ?

I use manual(tiptronic) almost all the time. I think it works brilliantly.

[Timbo]

I read this thread with a tad of trepidation, as we took delivery of a new Golf GT TDI DSG yesterday, and I couldn't remember if we'd experienced any jerkiness on the test drive or not.

Well, so far -- 150ks -- it feels a smooth as silk, in either D or S. In manual, it just depends on your style. Methinks there may be something in the ECU coding, and the dealer may have an update.

[vanDub]

Hi Dave,

After 5000k in 2 weeks (mostly highway getting home) I am the same as you but at this stage accepting that the problem is me still getting used to the DSG as it is so different to my camry V6 auto (now wife's car).

Auto hold is definitely worse so I have stopped using it unless I need it (was using it 100% initially).

As part of experimenting trying to get good fuel economy, I now find that I get best results by releasing brake, car starts to creep forward and being very gentle with accelerator. DSG shifts into 2nd very quickly (still walking speed) and I only put the boot into the accelerator after DSG is in 2nd regardless of whether I want a BOF (boring old fart) takeoff or to play at the lights. Around town I am achieving my normal (reasonably rapid) takeoffs with absolutely minimum accelerator and early gear changes that I would only achieve in the Camry by using half accelerator or more so that it stayed in lower gears and rev'ed out.

I definitely feel each gear change around town (compared to Camry) but that's because of the extra pull from the high torque. Can't feel the gear changes on the highway because its all pull until I ease off.

PS I added writeup and pictures of my genuine towbar to your towbar thread.

[Man In Black (MIB)]

Dsg

The original issue described is something I certainly experienced when my V6 was new. Back then S on the DSG actually stood for Suicide. That did go away after time. Then came the dreaded DSG lag.

However, I have been experimenting with it constantly. I have come up with the following:
-the lag (in my car) is due to the car starting off in 2nd gear, as it hadn’t come to a complete stop and thus selected 1st. When you push the accelerator all the way it still proceeds forward in 2nd gear but suddenly realises after about 3 metres that 2nd gear won’t cut the mustard for what is been requested through the pedal. As the system has already selected 3rd and waiting to apply it, it then has to do a reset to get to 1st. This reset procedure I think is the lag. The way around it is to select S mode or force the car into 1st using the tiptronic mode. Once in 1st I have not had any lag issues.

[vanDub]

I find it much worse when reversing, by the way. Backing out of the driveway leaves me and the family with whiplash

If you are backing out of your driveway it may be the auto release of the park brake (I assume it is on when you get home) that is a bit rough. It's the same issue as with the auto hold function.

Try manual park brake release instead (foot on brake / press button) and it may be better in this instance.