Passat 125TDI Please Help!

[Transporter]

Also let them know (if you already hadn't) that there is vwwatercooled.com.au and a lot of threads and people disappointed with their Passat TDI and even more disappointed with the dealers not being able to repair them. Not good advertising at all.

[antone_86]

Update...

Bundaberg VW called.

I have been advised that the No 3 injector has failed this time.

The dealership is currently putting in a request for R&R of the other 3 injectors under goodwill / and warranty request on other repairs done recently with VW.

Fingers crossed they come to the party. Should know this afternoon or tomorrow.

These guys seem like they're on the ball compared to others... refreshing.

Thanks to Jeff at Bundy VW for all the help and communication thus far.

Transporter - do you think it's worth starting up another thread RE: Letter to VW regarding Passat Injectors?

[Transporter]

Thanks to Jeff at Bundy VW for all the help and communication thus far.

Transporter - do you think it's worth starting up another thread RE: Letter to VW regarding Passat Injectors?

You've got the PM

[antone_86]

PM read and replied - we'll just wait and see how they deal with it for the moment...

[Greg Roles]

So I wonder what the legal implication is if a 125TDI stops at speed on the highway due to injector failure where it is a recognised flaw and is involved in a major accident? It's the main thing troubling me.

[antone_86]

I'm fairly sure that the onus of responsibility for something like that would not fall on VW Greg - there are too many other factors.

For example, VW could argue that main roads construction was not adequate and did not allow for the safe placement of vehicles that encountered issues en route, they could show that the driver was irresponsible in their placement of the vehicle and should have stopped sooner / later if possible, they could argue that the other drivers should have paid more attention etc... much like these insurance companies with the floods - plenty of variable loopholes to exploit.

With that said I am sort of conceptualising the recent stuff up with the Toyota accelerator pedals - they did a full recall on all affected vehicles as it was a known fault and had caused accidents.

It'd have to make economic sense for VW to do that though - in Toyota's case the issue had major repercussions that they saw as being commercially damaging.

[WestOiler125]

So I wonder what the legal implication is if a 125TDI stops at speed on the highway due to injector failure where it is a recognised flaw and is involved in a major accident? It's the main thing troubling me.

This is what happened to me yesterday, driving at 100km on fwy, total power loss, had to steer into emerg lane missing a few perplexed drivers. Got it going again, but died totally that night. Went to John Hughes in East Vic Pk (WA) and he knew all about this issue. Will replace all injectors and wiring loom, in fact there was another one there being fixed for the exact same fault!
Surely this is becoming a legal liability, but companies will only admit liability if backed into a corner, look at RR who still are very quiet over the Airbus A380 Trent 900 engine failure issue. Is their success in the marketplace making them deaf to the reliability issues?
Lets hope that they replace them all and my Passat will live long time....

[icabodfestus]

Same problem as everyone on this forum.

This sounds eerily similar to our experience. On Sunday (two days ago), we were driving along a freeway, when our car lost all power, and we had to cut across four lanes as we dodged other cars, with the diesel engine "coil" warning also illuminating.

We have a 2007 Passat which we bought privately ONE WEEK ago. It has done 104,000 and is now four years old, and from my understanding, we have no recourse. We have had it assessed and discovered - lo and behold - that it is injector number three that has "an electrical fault" and we are now being advised to replace all of them.

My question is raised from one mentioned earlier:

We had just filled the tank with Coles/Shell Diesel. I haven't asked the previous owner what fuel he had used, but I did wonder if the crap I bought from Coles was the cause of all of the problems.

Has anyone else had this happen after filling up with Coles/Shell Diesel?

[antone_86]

Damn - sounds like there are more and more of us coming out of the woodwork.

Sorry to hear of your troubles too Westoiler and icabodfestus.

In terms of the fuel, unless it was extremely dirty you shouldn't have a problem with the fuel and your injectors regardless of the brand, just so long as it was not biodiesel which I believe Shell/Coles do not stock. The injectors are primarily an electrical issue / fault.

Hope to hear from VW Bundy today.

[guthrie]

Same problem as everyone on this forum....

Has anyone else had this happen after filling up with Coles/Shell Diesel?[/B]

Its not the fuel. I used BP Ultimate Diesel (best you can get in WA) and still had a failure..

[kaanage]

Perhaps all of those who have suffered injector failures should list up in Greg's thread in the Diesel section with the date/mileage of the failure (double list for reoccurance) + action taken.

And a thread suggesting likewise be created in the Golf/Jetta MkV forum

Then a definitive list can be more easily compiled.

[ope126]

Perhaps all of those who have suffered injector failures should list up in Greg's thread in the Diesel section with the date/mileage of the failure (double list for reoccurance) + action taken.

And a thread suggesting likewise be created in the Golf/Jetta MkV forum

Then a definitive list can be more easily compiled.

I agree with you kaange...

Thankfully I have a Common Rail Diesel (CR)...Engine Code CBBB.

Maybe to save any future confusion with people viewing these pages for the first time; anyone with problem engines could possibly add the Engine Code and the fact that it is a Pump Duse Diesel (PD) engine.

Possible PD Engine Codes include the following;
- 103kw (Golf, Jetta, Passat) (BKP, BMA, BMP)
- 125kw (Golf GT, Passat) (BMR, BUZ, BWV) and obviously other vehicles in the VAG range.

If any of the above info is incorrect, please amend as required.

I truly hope all affected get rectified ASAP!!!

[Transporter]

Just to relax many Golf and Passat owners, it is only Piezo PD injector made by Siemens, so not every 103TDI Golf and Passat. Easiest way to check if you have Piezo PD injectors or electromechanical PD injector is to check the brochure that you got from the dealer before you bought a car. On one of the back pages where engine data are listed you could read Piezo PD injection or PD injection or Common Rail injection.

[Static]

Ok ... So my just ordered CC ... The specs page says

Fuel System - Bosch EDC 17 with common rail injection

Does that mean mine will be ok ?

[Transporter]

Ok ... So my just ordered CC ... The specs page says

Fuel System - Bosch EDC 17 with common rail injection

Does that mean mine will be ok ?

Yes....,