2018MY Arteon Discussion Thread

[Elmura]

Whats wrong with the footrest?

Every car looks better if its lowered 20mm and made a wider wheelbase but its a car for useability for the masses, not the small percentage of people who will mod their cars

Many cars look better with less wheel: body gap. However, there are many cars that are factory released with well filled wheel arches and good stance, even around this price point. I'll list a few that come to mind from small to large:

+ Many BMW's
+ Many Audi's
+ Many Mercs
+ Ford Mustang GT
+ Almost any sport model from any manufacturer

I think VW is playing safe trying to appeal to wider audience, but the other manufacturers sell just fine with a more aggressive / sporty appearance.

I'm also curious in how they put a smaller, lighter engine vs the CC V6, but the car is just as heavy.


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[Mr_206]

Official launch occurred today!

2018 Volkswagen Arteon pricing and specs

[DreamensioN]

Official launch occurred today!

2018 Volkswagen Arteon pricing and specs

So can someone confirm if the prices we saw ($78-$80k) are legit? - well...I know they're legit...I went to a dealer and got a quote. But that was before official pricing was released on their website. I wonder if I went back now if the car would be $4k cheaper.

And interesting that they say the options are $2500ea. I have written here from the dealer (fully RRP inc GST) that the options are $1923ea. And the metallic paint is between $500-$700 depending on what colour of metallic it is you want.

So going for the high side...
$65490 (car) + $1923 (sunroof) + $1923 (sound pack) + $700 (metallic) = $70036.

$8-$10k for onroads??? Surely that can't be right...

[Mr_206]

your forgetting some LCT and GST. Brings the price to around 80k fully loaded on road as rrp

[Mr_206]

Of course then you can start some negotiating

[Mr_206]

Reivew from Caradvice 2018 Volkswagen Arteon review | CarAdvice

[Ozsko]

The review in the Sydney Morning Herald was not very flattering at all. 2017 Volkswagen Arteon first drive review

[DreamensioN]

The review in the Sydney Morning Herald was not very flattering at all. 2017 Volkswagen Arteon first drive review

I thought that review read just fine (it doesn't slam the car at all). Just reiterates what every other review has said "Looks good on the outside, basically a Passat on the inside - VW could have done more if they want to be taken seriously"

[Ozsko]

To me it came across as a VW trying to be what it isn't and that is a competitor in that price bracket.

[tigger73]

I thought that review read just fine (it doesn't slam the car at all). Just reiterates what every other review has said "Looks good on the outside, basically a Passat on the inside - VW could have done more if they want to be taken seriously"

The only way VW can keep the price down is to pull from the MQB parts bucket so you're always going to have a lot of common equipment. Though other than the 7 speed DSG and some higher end collision avoidance/active safety there's really not a lot spec-wise that's different to the 206TSI Passat. I kind of struggle with the value proposition, but love the styling.

[Mr_206]

The only way VW can keep the price down is to pull from the MQB parts bucket so you're always going to have a lot of common equipment. Though other than the 7 speed DSG and some higher end collision avoidance/active safety there's really not a lot spec-wise that's different to the 206TSI Passat. I kind of struggle with the value proposition, but love the styling.

And its that styling why you pay more than a Passat

[Ozsko]

My feeling is that the Arteon will go the same way as the CC did, sales won't happen. The same has happened to the Mazda six, Mazda pushed it up market and the asking is simply too much for the brand. I thought the CC was a brilliant car with four individual seats but the price was too high for the brand.

[doc_777]

Halo models rarely sell in large numbers, nor are they intended to. For some buyers, they are an aspirational purchase. For others, they are one vehicle in a sea of many.
Being a halo model, I don't imagine that VW Australia want - nor intend on having - big sales numbers for the Arteon. That would in fact reduce its appeal for those who regard it as an aspirational purchase.

[Ozsko]

That may well be so but it is supposed to compete with cars which aren't halo models at all, the opposite in fact so the car seems contradictory in that segment. The cars it is competing against are very low end for each manufacturer but because those brands have a perception of luxury and performance people buy them for the brand's recognition which is directly opposite to what VW are trying to do. Watch what happens with the re-sale value of the Arteon, it will resemble a vertical cliff face which won't help either. Brands have a segment and the ones who step outside that generally get a bloody nose.

[doc_777]

I'm sure Ozsko, that VW Australia will give your expertise suitable thought when they need assistance