2018MY Arteon Discussion Thread

[phaeton]

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First Drive in South Africa
2017 VW Arteon prototype review review | Autocar
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[pologti18t]

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[Eaglen00b]

Love the lines. Most definitely going to be a stunning looking vehicle and a head turner for sure.

But it comes down to whether or not you wanna lay down at least 70k++ bones down for a decently optioned model and take a huge gamble with resale and VAG dealer/customer service/support?

I can't even get rid of my 2013 CC with almost every factory option except sunroof as it is.... bloody dieselgate. Fantastic cars, great to drive but boy did I get burnt.

[Vexed]

If the price is right, this will be my next car

[nermal]

IMHO - the Arteon is shaping up as a nice R36 replacement. Looks much more compelling than the R-line 206.

Hopefully, the premium price also comes with a performance boost over the 206. I'm still leaning toward waiting for a Tesla Model 3 with ludicrous mode - though (wishfully thinking) an Arteon with a dual-motor electric drive-train (and acceleration to match) would be very compelling.

Any ideas on sound, will Dynaudio be an option?

[Mr_206]

We should find out details in the next couple of months.... will be in dealerships from Sept. I would say the Arteon would be fully loaded like the 206 Passat with sunroof and metalic as the only two options.

I have a 206 on order but may change to this if price is not too much more... awaiting a call once they know rough pricing...

Some more info here

2018 Volkswagen Arteon liftback unveiled

[dinot81]

Reading the article about the Arteon in AutoBild.de from 9/3/17, it said that it was misssing something special, a must-have feature hinting about a new 3.0 VR6 (300kw) engine that VW is awaiting to be approved for production. With that, you could even see the return of proper Passat R in the future.

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[DreamensioN]

So apart from (the option of getting) matrix LED headlights and the badge... why would anybody pay the premium for the A5 sportback?

I currently have a Golf R, and was seriously contemplating a facelift 2.0L A5 Sportback, but the Arteon changes everything for me. I may aswell get this.

[Mr_206]

Also the fact that the A5 price would be alot more for similar performance (206kws!)

[nermal]

Also the fact that the A5 price would be alot more for similar performance (206kws!)

I looked at Audi's recently and was quite disappointed.. High price, underwhelming performance - feels just like a VW on the inside. Not willing to pay $20K more for four rings and a little extra trim.

The A5 coupe looks good on the outside, but the performance is quite lame in most models. You have to pay ~$120K (plus options) for an S5 that can beat an R 206 (or R36 =P ).

[ClassicAU]

a new 3.0 VR6 (300kw) engine that VW is awaiting to be approved for production.

More on this please! Any idea if it will be Naturally Aspirated, or going turbo like everything else these days?

[Dutch77]

I seriously doubt there are any plans for a new vanilla V6 to be developed - the whole reason the current Passats are scoring the 206kW engine is because the old V6 no longer met emission requirements and they elected not to pursue further development of it (at a time when they had the cash to do so).

I understand there is talk of a hybrid V6 powertrain in the pipeline which presumably would also power things like VW Atlas in the USA but 100% it would be turbocharged. No manufacturer would be developing na sixes anymore for performance use.

Pricing on the Arteon will be critical, there is heavy talk of how they want it compared to the 4 series GC, which means it will likely be overpriced. This is a good looking VW, but the A5 sportback is a much better design and the interior kicks the Passat/Arteon out of the park. It's up to the individual if they're willing to pay that premium here - but plenty have lower down the rung R v S3.

[dinot81]

More on this please! Any idea if it will be Naturally Aspirated, or going turbo like everything else these days?

For now its sit and wait. VW in China already offer the 3.0l VR6 with approx 175kw and this would be likely a turbo or twin-turbo if released. The engine would suit larger cars like Q7 and Touareg as well. Future will tell.

2015 Tiguan 130TDI R-Line, Pepper Grey, Panoramic Sunroof

[dinot81]

I seriously doubt there are any plans for a new vanilla V6 to be developed - the whole reason the current Passats are scoring the 206kW engine is because the old V6 no longer met emission requirements and they elected not to pursue further development of it (at a time when they had the cash to do so).

I understand there is talk of a hybrid V6 powertrain in the pipeline which presumably would also power things like VW Atlas in the USA but 100% it would be turbocharged. No manufacturer would be developing na sixes anymore for performance use.

Pricing on the Arteon will be critical, there is heavy talk of how they want it compared to the 4 series GC, which means it will likely be overpriced. This is a good looking VW, but the A5 sportback is a much better design and the interior kicks the Passat/Arteon out of the park. It's up to the individual if they're willing to pay that premium here - but plenty have lower down the rung R v S3.

Arteon will be expensive as is because for our market the CC was only offered fully optioned and 2 top engine variants of each diesel and petrol. In europe, CC base models were much cheaper, had more range on engines and equipment levels. They didn't even have multifunction steering wheels and radios were the ones from base mk6. I personally would not even consider spending that kind of money on a VW because I can easily buy something from the prestige market with better quality. This is just my opinion.

2015 Tiguan 130TDI R-Line, Pepper Grey, Panoramic Sunroof

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Interesting article:

VW Arteon Coupe Would Make Enticing Alternative To An Audi A5