2018MY Arteon Discussion Thread

[Vexed]

Did the CC come with cooled seats?

Yes, my old CC had cooled front seats.

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[Ozsko]

I was tyre kicking today or rather I was making an inquiry at the service counter and wandered around the show room and sat in an Arteon. I can see what the media mean when they say it is underwhelming, internally it is a typical modern VW with a bigger screen. The under the hood tech might be more than the Passat but in this country not that much more. All modern VW's are good places to be in but for the coin I would want a bit more, I am not criticising the car as such but in that price range I think it lacks the needed panache. I will now duck behind the wall and wait for the incoming rounds to be fired.

[nermal]

I was tyre kicking today or rather I was making an inquiry at the service counter and wandered around the show room and sat in an Arteon. I can see what the media mean when they say it is underwhelming, internally it is a typical modern VW with a bigger screen. The under the hood tech might be more than the Passat but in this country not that much more. All modern VW's are good places to be in but for the coin I would want a bit more, I am not criticising the car as such but in that price range I think it lacks the needed panache. I will now duck behind the wall and wait for the incoming rounds to be fired.

Not sure if you have to worry about any incoming rounds ;-P

It's a great looking car with loads of potential.. But (IMO) for the price, it just needs that extra 10% performance & features to get it over the line - it's a VW, so people are looking for value, not a badge.

I'm considering other options ATM, but am somewhat hopeful VW could improve upon the Arteon in the near future... maybe

[Ozsko]

I suppose because it might appear from my earlier postings that I am critical of the car which in a way I most probably am. It is not a bad car but it does lack that little extra that should be there IMO. I am positive it is a nice thing to drive, does everything very well etc but that is not sufficient for the price. At that level I want someone to get in the car and be surprised at the interior, not like I did yesterday, got in it and instantly thought it is my car with a bigger screen.

[DreamensioN]

I suppose because it might appear from my earlier postings that I am critical of the car which in a way I most probably am. It is not a bad car but it does lack that little extra that should be there IMO. I am positive it is a nice thing to drive, does everything very well etc but that is not sufficient for the price. At that level I want someone to get in the car and be surprised at the interior, not like I did yesterday, got in it and instantly thought it is my car with a bigger screen.

I'm in the same boat with you guys. I'm having a very hard time to see where the extra cash goes for what you get. When I was in the dealership on Saturday, I even said straight up to the guy that I'm comparing the Arteon against the Superb Sportline (which lets face it...is really the main competitor here), and I asked him to explain to me the benefits of the Arteon over the Superb as I would really like to know where the price difference is going.

And he couldn't. He just pointed out some random bits of technology on the car which I was already fully aware of and almost gave up trying to justify its cost. That didn't give me a lot of confidence that it's actually worth the extra money (or he just didn't know the Arteon well enough to talk about it).

I'm all ok with paying the extra cash for an Arteon, as long as I know what I'm getting. But so far I haven't found anybody, or any information that can explain why it costs what it does and what the value proposition is against the Superb Sportline.

Because right now...the Superb looks the clear winner - and when you factor in a corporate discount on the Superb, vs an assumed full retail (or minimal discount) on the Arteon, that's nearly $20,000 difference. And that's not really a lump of cash to be casually dismissed - especially from prospective buyers in our segment.

[DreamensioN]

I'm all ok with paying the extra cash for an Arteon, as long as I know what I'm getting. But so far I haven't found anybody, or any information that can explain why it costs what it does and what the value proposition is against the Superb Sportline.

And what I mean by this is, apart from a...
- 360 degree camera
- LED headlights
- massage function
- 20" rims with the upgraded sound system
- an extra gear
- heads up display that doesn't work with polarised sunglasses

...what does the Arteon offer above the Superb Sportline? I can't see $20k of added value just in those things. Especially when the Superb includes...
- rear integrated sunshades
- Qi wireless charging
- chilled center console storage
- space to hold a tablet in the center console storage
- 5yr warranty

[nermal]

And what I mean by this is, apart from a...
- 360 degree camera
- LED headlights
- massage function
- 20" rims with the upgraded sound system
- an extra gear
- heads up display that doesn't work with polarised sunglasses

...what does the Arteon offer above the Superb Sportline? I can't see $20k of added value just in those things. Especially when the Superb includes...
- rear integrated sunshades
- Qi wireless charging
- chilled center console storage
- space to hold a tablet in the center console storage
- 5yr warranty

I seem to recall that the Superb also has ventilated seats?

For me (in Qld) that is a big advantage - I'd prefer cooled seats to heated any day.

[Ozsko]

I just read through this thread again and it does not reflect the usual "can't wait" enthusiasm of others like the Tiguan.

[Vexed]

I seem to recall that the Superb also has ventilated seats?

For me (in Qld) that is a big advantage - I'd prefer cooled seats to heated any day.

Yes it has ventilated seats in my 206... The Sportline doesn't have this option though because it comes with Alcantara sports seats.

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[DreamensioN]

I seem to recall that the Superb also has ventilated seats?

For me (in Qld) that is a big advantage - I'd prefer cooled seats to heated any day.

Ohh and the Superb has DAB+ radio aswell. Arteon doesn't.


Ah geez... I gotta head back to the Skoda dealer and take the Superb Sportline for a test drive.

[Mr_206]

your also forgetting the Arteon has far more advanced safety features over the Skoda...

Just depends on what you value... for me the wireless charger would be nice but no biggie, cooled glovebox is a gimmick (old car had it never used it), cooled seats would be nice feature i guess... never had it

[Ozsko]

I have never compared the two cars on that level, what extra does the Arteon have over the Superb?

[DreamensioN]

your also forgetting the Arteon has far more advanced safety features over the Skoda...

Well this is what I looked at aswell.
They both have traffic jam assist, blind spot assist, lane assist, fatigue detection, adaptive cruise control, front assist/collision detection etc. But what spun me out is they both have that thing where the car will pull over and automatically call emergency services. I thought that was with the Arteon only and was a whole new thing. Then I found out Skoda already had it.

And...I just found out the MY18 Superb has "Surround Area View" (aka 360 degree camera).

[Vexed]

Well this is what I looked at aswell.
They both have traffic jam assist, blind spot assist, lane assist, fatigue detection, adaptive cruise control, front assist/collision detection etc. But what spun me out is they both have that thing where the car will pull over and automatically call emergency services. I thought that was with the Arteon only and was a whole new thing. Then I found out Skoda already had it.

And...I just found out the MY18 Superb has "Surround Area View" (aka 360 degree camera).

The pull over part is more advanced in the Arteon... It will move to the left lane and pull over... In the current Superb, it will just pull over in the same lane.

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[rsp8]

But what spun me out is they both have that thing where the car will pull over and automatically call emergency services. I thought that was with the Arteon only and was a whole new thing. Then I found out Skoda already had it.

And...I just found out the MY18 Superb has "Surround Area View" (aka 360 degree camera).

I ordered my Sportline based on the MY17 I test drove, this thread is just making me happier now you keep pointing out MY18 changes I wasn’t even aware of! I thought the only difference was the bigger screen without tactile buttons.

I’m not sure if the Arteon and the Sportline are direct competition, not in the same way as the Passat R-line, purely because the Arteon is such a distinctive look.

I do believe though that if they ever put the digital dash in the Superb Sportline and opened a few more dealers, they’d never sell another Passat (Ok I am being slightly tongue in cheek, but not much).

The Skoda also has the configurable interior lighting colour which might turn out to be a gimmick, but I liked it.