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  • #91
    Originally posted by kroogz View Post
    Lucas_R - you could go to VW and mention that it is a common problem. My car is second hand 6 months out of warranty and they replaced all the tensioners in my car under good will warranty. Didn't cost me a thing.
    Hmm ok. Definitely worth a try. Thanks kroogz.

    Would MUCH rather not have to spend $500 on parts and a day of my time doing this.
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    • #92
      Worth a shot. I asked if I would be charged a diagnosis fee, which I was willing to pay ($160) but the manager said if I can hear the sound it is most likely that they will place it under warranty, which is what happened.

      Either way $160 seemed like a good idea as it means I had it checked by VW so when it did fail, I had some sort of leg to stand on.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by kroogz View Post
        Worth a shot. I asked if I would be charged a diagnosis fee, which I was willing to pay ($160) but the manager said if I can hear the sound it is most likely that they will place it under warranty, which is what happened.

        Either way $160 seemed like a good idea as it means I had it checked by VW so when it did fail, I had some sort of leg to stand on.
        Thanks again for the info. Was the process of getting it fixed under warranty quick or dragged out (especially as it was good will).

        My brother works at a Skoda/Audi dealer (combined dealership) so i have asked him if they have done many of these under good will. That will give me some ammo to go to VW with.

        The part is faulty (and VW have issued a revised part) so it should be a warranty job regardless.
        Last edited by Lucas_R; 21-03-2014, 11:53 AM.
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        • #94
          Didn't take long at all. I rang VW Australia Customer Care and they said to book it with my local dealer, and if I was not happy to get back to them. Kedron is my chosen local dealer.

          Took it in on a Friday for diagnosis, got a call later that afternoon to say yes the rattle is there and has an associated TPI so will be covered under good will warranty. Booked it in for the next available spot, job took 2 days, which included waiting on additional tensioner they decided to replace while the engine was open. This was the upper tensioner.

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          • #95
            Thanks again - will contact VW next week and try to get in there for a diagnosis. Fingers crossed they offer to fix under good will.
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            • #96
              If car is pre-2009 there is a good chance it won't be covered.
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              • #97
                Originally posted by Snail Style View Post
                If car is pre-2009 there is a good chance it won't be covered.
                Its an early 2010
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                • #98
                  How did you go with the tensioner, Lucas? Reluctant to take it in to our local dealership?
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                  • #99
                    Got a new motor!

                    Does anyone reckon i should revisit all the engine mounting bolts associated with my engine replacement to re-check the torquing of the bolts? Was going to ask my independent mechanic to have a look during the next service.
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                    • Should I be worried about my GTI suffering this problem? 2012.5 Model. I have had a look online and most of the US Guys are saying its 2009-2013 but on here I see anything after 2010 should be fine. Just wondering if I can sleep at night or ....
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                      • News i heard was they rectified the part that failed in 2011.
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                        • Does anyone know if this issue is common for Passat V6 3.2L engines? I have a 2007 Passat with the check engine light illuminated and DTC 00022 Crankshaft Position –Camshaft Position, Correlation Bank 1 Sensor A. In other words: camshaft timing out of sync with crankshaft. There are no nasty noises, but I'm not driving it till it's checked out just in case the chain is about to jump a sprocket or two.

                          I've read about several common problems on VW forums including:
                          1. Timing chain tensioner failure – it seems in 2010 VW introduced arevised part to cure the problemwith a Reinforced Timing Chain Tensioner
                          2. Bolt on centre sprocket fails or comes undone
                          3. Chain guide rails fail or wear out

                          It would be nice to think it could be just a sensor failure, but I don't think so. It sounds like a big job involving removing the front of the car, drive shafts and DSG transmission to get to the timing chain which is on the transmission side of the engine.
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                          Mods: R36 steering wheel | HP DQ250 DSG tune | HPA Haldex performance controller | Koni sports yellow shocks | Eibach springs | H&R sway bars | Whiteline ALK | Kufatec E-MFA add on | Garage door button | Warning triangle retrofit | Bridgestone Potenza Adrenalin RE003s

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                          • Yeah, I've seen the tensioners wear, causing noise on start-up. Also possible that the chains have stretched.

                            You don't have to pull the front off them to pull the DSG out. You'd be better off dropping the whole motor/DSG/bevel box out in one lump, and splitting it on the floor.
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                            • Thanks. I should have mentioned it's done 64,000 gentle km.
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                              Mods: R36 steering wheel | HP DQ250 DSG tune | HPA Haldex performance controller | Koni sports yellow shocks | Eibach springs | H&R sway bars | Whiteline ALK | Kufatec E-MFA add on | Garage door button | Warning triangle retrofit | Bridgestone Potenza Adrenalin RE003s

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                              • Hi all,


                                I eventually found my way here after my MK 6 Golf GTI 2010 suffered a total engine failure a few weeks ago.


                                Basically, a piston has has contacted the spark plug. Engine is seized. Most probably caused by a timing chain having slipped, so several independent mechanics think without stripping down the engine.


                                I am coming to the opinion that VW knew that the timing chain tensioner was an issue on this 2010 TSI engine (I have read the many forums relating to the issue), which went on to cause a catastrophic failure of my engine. If can prove this, then the car was probably not fit for use.

                                I also beleve there may be a TSB relating to the timing chain tensioner on this 2010 engine?

                                At this stage VW will not give a engine diagnosis, without stripping of the head at an estimated cost of $1500-$2000 quoted by JMC Hobart, so therefore goodwill cannot be applied for.


                                As such, I am now considering suing VW Australia, for either a refund or replacement of the vehicle, as I do not believe it was fit for purpose at the time of purchase.


                                Thought on this please, and has anyone successfully pursued this path?

                                My engine model number is CCZ

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