DSG five year warranty?

[idaho]

Dont you mean lets sucker people into buying a car with an auto trans that will be obsolete once DSG's are back in stock by throwing in some extras to distract them

I had the chance to buy a Pacific but when i explained like that to the salesman i had spoken to they all agreed thats all it was lol

Personally, I would take the auto, or a manual, long before (if ever) a DSG. And I don't think I am the only person with that opinion. I am more than happy to sacrifice some fuel economy to have a torque converter that works without vices when manouvering on inclines.

[ido09s]

My DSG works flawlessly on inclines. My only complaint is the shift program but thats a pretty easy fix

What do you not like about it? have you found them jerky or something

[NZTiguan]

Don't know about Idaho but I can tell you that DSG is a real issue off-road and doing any slow up-hill work like pulling a boat up a slippery ramp. DSG simply won't crawl, it's either out of gear or in gear with no in between. Great for the tar-seal only, never towing (particularly a boat) but almost unusable off-road crawling up rough and/or slippery patches. Don't get me wrong, the DSG is brilliant for round town and the highway, problem is that's not the only places I take my Tig. Personally I'd like to see the track and field model given more clearance, better rubber, and with the so called slush-box, and the DSG confined to the "road" version of the Tiguan.

Cheers

Cheers

[idaho]

Our VW is a manual but we have several aquaintenances with DSG's, a Golf R, a TDi Passat & a TSI Jetta. The Golf R seems fine while the Passat seems to be as NZTiguan describes, either in or out and no inbetween. The Jetta has a 7 speed and has had the clutches replaced for the shudder but you can feel, from the passenger seat, that it is starting to re-occur.

I don't have any argument with the shifting component of DSG's (although the shift points are obviously debatable for some people) but I think clutch control by electronics is a very tough ask. For example I would be surprised if the control unit has a way of determining whether a car is heavily loaded when doing a hill start compared to how it might have adapted clutch take-up for an unloaded car.

I recall reading somewhere that the Porsche equivalent of DSG (PDK?) has a torque converter with lock-up clutch as well as the normal two clutches so it can run with the torque converter unlocked in 1st or reverse gears if necessary.

[ido09s]

NZTiguan, with all due respect i think you may have bought the wrong vehicle. I dont know about NZ but in Oz the Tiguan is far from marketed as an offroader, in fact the dealer i bought mine from advised against any form of offroading as its really not what the car was intended for. I would also go as far to say that if your expecting it to pull a boat out of the water without an issue you may also be asking too much of the car, or at least the gearbox. Maybe a manual woud have been the better option?

idaho, i see you make no mention of someone you know owing a Tiguan with DSG. The OP has asked about Tiguan DSG's, not Golf's or Jetta's. I will admit to the gearbox being fast to release the clutch at times but i have never really seen it as an issue. I think it has more to do with how you drive the car as i find it happens more when you jump off the brake pedal than when you ease off the brake pedal

[Transporter]

NZTiguan's Tig is track and field and is more off road orientated than our Tiguans here. VW Australia most likely things that in Australia it would be useless feature, so we don't get them here.

[ido09s]

Fair enough, i cant really comment then can i.

But having said that, no Tiguan would really make a decent off roader unless it was quite heavily revised.

If you want to go offroad get a Land Rover or a Land Cruiser or something, even an Amarok would be a better option than a Tiguan

[idaho]

NZTiguan's Tig is track and field and is more off road orientated than our Tiguans here. VW Australia most likely things that in Australia it would be useless feature, so we don't get them here.

Just looking through the brochure I have I realised all pictures of the Tiguan are on sealed surfaces and 4Motion is described as a safety feature. I guess that is why the Offroad button is no longer an option, Australian Tiguans are obviously not meant to go offroad. I imagine though they should be beach capable without destroying the vehicle in the process.

[NZTiguan]

NZTiguan, with all due respect i think you may have bought the wrong vehicle. I dont know about NZ but in Oz the Tiguan is far from marketed as an offroader, in fact the dealer i bought mine from advised against any form of offroading as its really not what the car was intended for. I would also go as far to say that if your expecting it to pull a boat out of the water without an issue you may also be asking too much of the car, or at least the gearbox. Maybe a manual woud have been the better option?

With equal respect i'm sure .......... you're wrong, my Tiguan, a diesel, 4motion, auto, "track and field" model with off-road electronics, is perfectly adequate off-road for all the work I do (And that virtually any weekend off-roader would need) and it's a brilliant tow car (having won tow-car of the year in Europe !!) and at doing things like hauling a boat up a slippery and steep ramp. The grunt of the diesel combined with the flexibility of the auto and the 50/50 power split of the 4motion when in off-road mode is absolutely perfect for all the requirements i ask of it. I'm not for a moment suggesting anybody should do heavy off-road work (I have a mate with a holden V8 powered Range Rover for that) but it's certainly "capable" off road. You may also be surprised to learn that most "light off-road" drivers such as myself now prefer a modern auto (particularly with its hill hold and hill descent modes) over a manual that requires a very experienced clutch foot (I've only been driving 45 years lol) to avoid stalling and rolling back.

By the way, line up a 4motion auto Tiguan and a manual Commodore or Falcon (or worse still a front wheel drive car) pulling a boat up a wet slippery ramp and you'd soon want the Tiguan as a boat retriever !!

Cheers

[ido09s]

I wouldnt want a Commodore or a Falcon to drive at all to be honest, and would never for the life of me consider pulling a boat with either. I would however use the Tiguan to tow the Commonwhore, Falconwhore to sims metal as thats about all they are good for to be honest, scrap metal. Most over rated, over priced cars on Australian roads if you ask me so to compare the ability of them against a Tiguan is just unfair lol

As for your Tiggy, as long as your happy, thats the main thing