Do the DSG Tiguans have Launch control ?

[Sharkie]

Pretty much as the title says .... can anybody who has a new 7spd DSG Tiguan confirm or deny whether it has launch control ?

[Vince_S]

Hey Sharkie, I have been informed and told it does, though I will be able to verify this 100% for you over the next few days

Unless someone beats me to it...

And I believe it has been covered here:

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/f97/my11-tiguan-dsg-launch-control-confirmed-50485.html

[Sharkie]

Hey Sharkie, I have been informed and told it does, though I will be able to verify this 100% for you over the next few days

Unless someone beats me to it...

And I believe t has been covered here:

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/f97/...med-50485.html

Thanks I saw that, but need to have it confirmed now, a few months after the DSGs were released.

Also, preferrably by a few Tig owners, not a test driver .....

[Vince_S]

DSG Launch Control confirmed

I can understand mate

So, picked up the new car this afternoon

Got home, let everyone out and said "I just have to test one thing"

Auto Hold off, Esp off, Gear in to S, Left foot on brake, Right foot accelerate to 3000+RPM, take a loving hold of the of the steering wheel, relax back in seat, lift left foot.... Booyah!! Smile as wide as my face!

Launch Control Confirmed, Fitted and Tested (multiple times simply to see how wide my grin goes). Lovin' it!

Even my one year old daughter watching from the footpath looked over at my wife, slightly frowned, shakes her head in the affirmative and said "Mmm, broooom!" lol

'bout sums it up

I didn't floor it through the range simply because the engine only has 24km's on it, but I'll put it through its paces in due course

[Captain Bungers]

Ok, now I am starting to get a little jealous of the dsg, although Captain "ninjafoot" Bungers doesn't need it...

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[DreamensioN]

Would launch control still be a feature in a 103 TDI DSG?

[Sharkie]

Launch Control Confirmed, Fitted and Tested (multiple times simply to see how wide my grin goes). Lovin' it!

Thanks Vince, thats the single most important performance feature IMO for the DSG Tigs .... apart from ACC ....

IF the DSGs in the Tigs prove their longetivity (and i haven't heard anything bad about the 550NM DSGs yet), this may by my next VW .... MY12 155TSI, all depends on when the Sportconcept roadster arrives.

[Vince_S]

Would launch control still be a feature in a 103 TDI DSG?

The only thing that makes me have doubts is the Diesel engine, however as its a DSG my 'assumption' and gut tells me that it should still have it - its more a combination of the software & DSG used, not the engine.

Have also seen unofficial quotes claiming all DSG's can do it, but nothing official. Which makes me share Sharkie's doubts

Only one sure way to test it out though! And its a pretty fun way

Thanks Vince, thats the single most important performance feature IMO for the DSG Tigs .... apart from ACC ....

IF the DSGs in the Tigs prove their longetivity (and i haven't heard anything bad about the 550NM DSGs yet), this may by my next VW .... MY12 155TSI, all depends on when the Sportconcept roadster arrives.

No problem mate - it was my pleasure lol

Agreed - The Launch Control & ACC give you a great base to build from. Now if only they would add the paddle shifters to the Tig with a GTI style steering wheel

If you are referring to the Bluesport Roadster concept, I'm keen to get my hands on one as well:

[Vince_S]

I am starting to get a little jealous of the dsg, although Captain "ninjafoot" Bungers doesn't need it..

LOL, thread posts need 'Like' buttons

[MGV]

(in another thread, re: launch control) Much better for the car as the launch balances everything out and you can't cause excessive stress on the components.

I kinda have reservations on that... Along with redlining a new motor with ~100km on the clock (another recent post...)
Don't want to spoil the party, but driving a brand new motor like that can't be good for longivity...

[aussietig]

Don't want to spoil the party, but driving a brand new motor like that can't be good for longivity...

I think I heard Tilly's hymen break.

Better double check Vince.


Jokes aside ... I know from past experience that oil consumption will be an issue to contend with.

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I kinda have reservations on that... Along with redlining a new motor with ~100km on the clock (another recent post...)
Don't want to spoil the party, but driving a brand new motor like that can't be good for longivity...

yes and no, the debate goes on and on about how to treat a new engine. Interestingly, asking dealer meachnics if Demo cars have any more problems and, at least IME, they say no. Infact bikes (many that have arguably tighter tolerances and generally produce much higher hp/litre e.g. my B4 produces 115kw/1 litre), and they'll tell you the demo engines usually end up the strongest.

As for launch control, don't know if I agree that it places less stress - I'm sure BMW would give you more than just 5 "launchs" before they void your waranntee if they thought it was not going to cause any problems.

[Vince_S]

Quite the contrary Gents

While we all 'believe' new cars & engines should be driven in, and I'll still take it easy for the first few thousand (but maybe not after reading the manual), the VW Sales Manager made a point of saying this is NOT the case for new VW's. And I quote "You need to drive it like you would every day. VW's don't need to be driven in. It will learn your driving style and adjust to your patterns accordingly"

The DSG is designed so that "the timing of the gear shift is determined by the engine load, your individual driving style and the speed of the vehicle" (taken straight out of the Owner's Manual - Tiguan Edition 11.2010, pg 174)

So it predetermines the perfect gear shift for you. The difference between D & S is that S "uses the full power available from the engine" and "all forward gears are shifted up and down at higher engine speeds" again, straight from the manual (pg 174)

Also on page 176: "When accelerating, the gearbox automatically shifts up to the next gear shortly before the maximum permitted engine speed is reached" and "When shifting down gear manually, the gearbox will not change gear until the engine can no longer be over revved"

Notes regarding Launch Control "The Launch Control Programme enables maximum acceleration from Zero" (pg 176,177) then goes on to tell you how to do it. Actually lists 3,200 RPM as the recommended engine speed for launching.

Now I've heard & seen other drivers leave it in neutral, rev it to redline and throw the gear into S... now THAT I won't be doing!

But there is nothing listed or highlighted in the manual to warn about driving the car this way - and there are PLENTY of warnings in there

The only note is regarding overheating the DSG, which can happen from "vehicle pulls off regularly, long periods of crawling speed or stop and go traffic". It'll go into an emergency programme mode to advise you how to cool it down. Once it cools down it actually says NOT to drive at "very low speeds" LOL!

I'll be the first to admit I don't know everything about cars and driving - far from it actually. But the above information basically translates for me as don't be scared to thrash it as the car will take car of itself and Launch Control is the best way to take off and there to be used

I don't drive like that everyday, but at least I know when I need to the Tig will do it perfectly. No gear crunching, no mistimed gear shifting, no overevving

So glad we didn't get a manual - the DSG is a thing a beauty and with a 550nm rating it should handle anything I can throw at it, especially using Launch Control

So as originally quoted:

Much better for the car as the launch balances everything out and you can't cause excessive stress on the components

I was spot on lol

Though thank you for making me research it in more detail

Also, just to reiterate MGV, when I tested it out:

Right foot accelerate to 3000+RPM

I didn't floor it through the range simply because the engine only has 24km's on it

So I was 200 RPM off the ideal range anyway and probably should have floored it.. Damn!!

I kinda have reservations on that... Along with redlining a new motor with ~100km on the clock (another recent post...)
Don't want to spoil the party, but driving a brand new motor like that can't be good for longivity...

Understandable concern, but not necessary

I think I heard Tilly's hymen break.

Better double check Vince.

Jokes aside ... I know from past experience that oil consumption will be an issue to contend with.

LOL! It's gotta be snapped sometime

Yeah even the dealer noted the Oil consumption and gave us a free bottle on delivery, but also said that it'll settle down after awhile

As for launch control, don't know if I agree that it places less stress - I'm sure BMW would give you more than just 5 "launchs" before they void your waranntee if they thought it was not going to cause any problems.

I can't comment on BMW, but i know I have no concerns with my VW

[Chrismacca]

I have a MY11 TDI 7speed DSG and have been unable to get it to work...the car won't rev past 2000rpm! I asked the dealer, who replied the diesel doesn't have it fitted due to the higher torque loads. I wish I knew the real answer; the manual gives detailed data on how to do it yet the dealer says no?!

[aussietig]

I have a MY11 TDI 7speed DSG and have been unable to get it to work...the car won't rev past 2000rpm! I asked the dealer, who replied the diesel doesn't have it fitted due to the higher torque loads. I wish I knew the real answer; the manual gives detailed data on how to do it yet the dealer says no?!

I think the idea of an "informed dealer" is an oxymoron (emphasis added).

I heard a junior sales rep once explain that "S" was designed for driving in Snow (in Europe).

And another who told me the washers for the xenons are to keep them cool when they get hot.


BB: I feel another merge coming along on LC threads!