Diesel Enhancements

[Tedhaggie]

Question for Guy &/or Jmac - if a workshop remap was applied. . and the vehicle had the VW ecu "upgrade" applied after,
Does the remap have to be done again and at what cost

[NZTiguan]

Question for Guy &/or Jmac - if a workshop remap was applied. . and the vehicle had the VW ecu "upgrade" applied after,
Does the remap have to be done again and at what cost

As I understand it (I enquired with the NZ dealer) the Bluefin system will NOT work with the updated ecu AND they will not refund you should this occur after installation. That means (as I see it) that effectively your VW agent can (purposely or otherwise) completely negate the BlueFin with an upgrade to your ecu.

Cheers

[Transporter]

As I understand it (I enquired with the NZ dealer) the Bluefin system will NOT work with the updated ecu AND they will not refund you should this occur after installation. That means (as I see it) that effectively your VW agent can (purposely or otherwise) completely negate the BlueFin with an upgrade to your ecu.Cheers

If they don't ask you before they re-program the ECU. It brings up the question. Who owns your car? The dealer or VW? To be sure that your mods don't go away and your car is still running smooth with additional hardware that you fitted (if you did), tell them do not reprogram the ECU or anything in your car without contacting you first! The car was sold to you and complied to ADR at the time and is fit for the purpose. There is no need to tinker with it in the way they do.

Do we have a lawyer here

[Tedhaggie]

I understand the bluefin system will be useless if the VW upgrade applied and any previously applied updates reversed. , I suspect thatthe oettinger or.superchips remaps would also be wiped by th VW "upgrade" but that can be reappllied but who pays?

[Sharkie]

If they don't ask you before they re-program the ECU. It brings up the question. Who owns your car? The dealer or VW? To be sure that your mods don't go away and your car is still running smooth with additional hardware that you fitted (if you did), tell them do not reprogram the ECU or anything in your car without contacting you first! The car was sold to you and complied to ADR at the time and is fit for the purpose. There is no need to tinker with it in the way they do.

Do we have a lawyer here

Not a practising 1 anyway ..... As I understand it (and I have not had time to read any doco on this) its pretty much the same as automatic updates from Microsoft for instance .... in order to remain complaint (and keep your warranty) all updates should be applied when they become available.

Its a "service" offered by the manufacturers and not intended to cause harm, rather its intended to provide "fixes". Its the same as plugging in the diagnostic equipment and clearing any error codes.

APR and Oettinger dealers will reload your ECU tuning software for only a labour cost (if any) For other tuners not widely represented in Aus/NZ you'r pretty much on your own....

You are perfectly entitled to tell the VW dealer not too do anything like it, but this will

1.) raise suspicion about your car being chipped with warranty implication issues, and
2.) negate your warranty on any item/issue the "update" is meant to address.

To keep your warranty healthy its best to do all your recalls & updates ....

Alternatively, take your car to a VW specialist for servicing who will get to know your car and its "enhancements" and not do anything without asking you 1st ....

[Transporter]

Hmm, Microsoft gives you option and you always have to click that you want these updates, alternatively you can disable automatic updates all together.
But, I know what you mean.
Anyway, good info Sharkie.

For these of you with cars 2+ years old (the car will be out of warranty soon, unless you have extended warranty), I wouldn't hesitate to tell to the dealer that I don't wish to have the ECU reprogrammed unless it is safety recall and they want to share the details.

[Guy_H]

Question for Guy &/or Jmac - if a workshop remap was applied. . and the vehicle had the VW ecu "upgrade" applied after,
Does the remap have to be done again and at what cost

There is no charge from us for the re-application - the dealer is entitled to charge 1 hours labour to do it, but most don't charge at all.

[Jmac]

Hey Ted i have cut and pasted the stuff from here to superchips UK. Hope to hear back soon. And mate not sure what to say about the "cheap hand helds" that makes me laugh, they are only available as hand helds due to the protocol your OBD runs, so not sure where the cheap comes from. Ok Cheap. chose Bluefin which has the VW firmware or use my laptop flash which uses EXACTLY the same same software , so if you fear a cheap hand held ill do the SAME flash for $400 more still cheaper than some!!!!!!!
Anyway ill send what what you have flagged an keep you all updated, by the way i know what a so called ' encrypted ECu looks like" weird encrytion. so far its only the boot enable thats desoldered. And by the way FYI we " superchips have a jig made so you dont have to solder the new ECUs at all!!!!
no pics of that jig sorry
Cheers
Jmac

[Guy_H]

Jimmy, when I mentioned "cheap hand helds" I was referring to the "delivery device" for the software & not the software itself - I Also didn't mention any brands. Any tuner can buy the "cheap hand helds" for about 40 Euro & put their own software on it & mail it out & there are plenty of companies that do that (not limited to VAG product either).

FYI - there is 100% no soldering on any APR or Oettinger uprades post MY 2002