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[Sanman]

Under S433 of the Criminal Code (QLD) the maximum penalty is 7 years imprisonment ...... ..... and the value of the stolen item is irrelevant (can be $1 or $1million, or more).

EDIT: and similar provisions apply in all states and territories in Australia.

My aftermarket cheap chinese AVC9000-1 is looking much better than the hot $1500 RNS-510 imports with no warranty

[Maverick]

How very naive of you .... .... the police is required to charge you for any offence and this is not classified as a minor offence either. It is irrelevant how much you paid for it.

Whether VW will do anything is up to them, but I can assure you if the police catch you with a stolen 1, that they will arrest and charge you.

Under S433 of the Criminal Code (QLD) the maximum penalty is 7 years imprisonment ...... ..... and the value of the stolen item is irrelevant (can be $1 or $1million, or more).

EDIT: and similar provisions apply in all states and territories in Australia.

I would put money on them not charging you. It's not irrelevant how much you paid for it.

If you purchase an item for a fair price from a reputable source (ebay for example) and it turns out to be stolen you're not going to be charged just like if you purchased that item from a pawn broker.

On the other hand if you purchased it from some meth addict in a pub for a tenth of the fair price you would expect to be charged.

Call me naive all you want but you might want to actually read S433. And if you believe for a second that a 7 year sentence is even remotely likely you might want to go and sit in the courts for a few days and look at all the career criminals who walk free after committing serious crimes against people and property.

source: http://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/LE...CriminCode.pdf

433 Receiving tainted property
(1) A person who receives tainted property, and has reason to
believe it is tainted property, commits a crime.
Maximum penalty—
(a) if the property was obtained by way of an act
constituting a crime—14 years imprisonment; or
(b) if the property is a firearm or ammunition—14 years
imprisonment; or
(c) if the offender received the property while acting as a
pawnbroker or dealer in second hand goods, under a
licence or otherwise—14 years imprisonment; or
(d) otherwise—7 years imprisonment.
(2) For the purpose of proving the receiving of anything it is
sufficient to show that the accused person has, either alone or
jointly with some other person, had the thing in his or her
possession, or has aided in concealing it or disposing of it.

[Sharkie]

I would put money on them not charging you. It's not irrelevant how much you paid for it.

If you purchase an item for a fair price from a reputable source (ebay for example) and it turns out to be stolen you're not going to be charged just like if you purchased that item from a pawn broker.

On the other hand if you purchased it from some meth addict in a pub for a tenth of the fair price you would expect to be charged.

Call me naive all you want but you might want to actually read S433. And if you believe for a second that a 7 year sentence is even remotely likely you might want to go and sit in the courts for a few days and look at all the career criminals who walk free after committing serious crimes against people and property.

source: http://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/LE...CriminCode.pdf

433 Receiving tainted property
(1) A person who receives tainted property, and has reason to
believe it is tainted property, commits a crime.
Maximum penalty—
(a) if the property was obtained by way of an act
constituting a crime—14 years imprisonment; or
(b) if the property is a firearm or ammunition—14 years
imprisonment; or
(c) if the offender received the property while acting as a
pawnbroker or dealer in second hand goods, under a
licence or otherwise—14 years imprisonment; or
(d) otherwise—7 years imprisonment.
(2) For the purpose of proving the receiving of anything it is
sufficient to show that the accused person has, either alone or
jointly with some other person, had the thing in his or her
possession, or has aided in concealing it or disposing of it.

How very Internet keyboard warrior of you to be able to look up legislation after its name (and relevant section) was provided to you. I actually have a printed copy (and a PDF) of the Code with me .....

I actually know S433 and its application. You will be charged if a stolen item is found in your possession regardless if you purchased it off Ebay or anywhere else. And whilst the maximum is 7 years, yes it is only a maximum, you would likely only get a suspended sentence for a item like this, but and this is the issue ...... you would get a conviction recorded and this would close a lot of doors for you. No government employment, restricted travel etc etc etc ..... good luck with that ...

There always is a possible defence, but in your case, the fact that you now know that there is a possibility that it might be stolen means that the defence is no longer available to you (and anybody who read this thread or any similar thread anywhere on the net).

Stick to your internet keyboard warrior GTI stuff .... and leave the really serious stuff to people who have been trained in it.

[brad]

There always is a possible defence, but in your case, the fact that you now know that there is a possibility that it might be stolen means that the defence is no longer available to you (and anybody who read this thread or any similar thread anywhere on the net).

Stick to your internet keyboard warrior GTI stuff .... and leave the really serious stuff to people who have been trained in it.

So if you buy stuff from a pawn broker & it turns out to be stolen then the chances of a higher punishment arise because it's generally known that half the stuff in a pawn shop is stolen......

You might be trained in law but the theory doesn't always work in practice. If you were a cleanskin, you'd probably get off because it's bloody hard to get a jury to convict. Big waste of time & money for cheap ICE though.

[Sharkie]

Because the max punishment is imprisonment it is a serious (indictable) offence and arresting and charging is basically mandatory. The police have no option, unlike an offence that is dealt with on the spot like a speeding fine.

The essence is the knowledge of the item being stolen and this has to be proven in a court. Even the remotest suspicion (on your part) that the particular item is stolen can lead to a conviction. And reading this thread is sufficient.

It is quite defendable, but here is another problem. The lawyer is going to charge far more than the savings you had in buying s suspect RNS510 in the 1st place. So even if you're successful in defending a charge, your $1200 Ebay RNS510 will end up costing you $5K+

I believe that the cost price (from the factory) of a RNS510 is over $2000 so any 1 sold for less than that is likely to be stolen.

It is unfortunate, but that is the way it is I'm afraid. Pity as I wanted 1 as well earlier until the Interpol info came to light.

[clip]

My aftermarket cheap chinese AVC9000-1 is looking much better than the hot $1500 RNS-510 imports with no warranty

And, as I keep saying, if you buy off someone like Auspack, and something does go wrong with it, you can relax in the knowledge that it is only a phone call away and the problem will be sorted.

BTW, these units are sold for Toyota and lots other vehicle makes. A quick look around their forums did not indicate massive issues, in fact very few - other than, once again, people stuffing them up by hacking them, or issues of bad installations or not understanding the unit's features or parameters (e.g. my dvd screen goes black and pops up messages when I'm driving - someone yells out 'take it back, mine does, you must have a faulty one' ) .

BTW Maverick, to say that over 50% are faulty is a big call (you have stats to support that I trust). I suspect that hundreds if not thousands have been sold in Aust alone, and I doubt any supplier would still be in business selling them if there was that rate of failure.

I know I sound like I'm trying to push these units, but I'm not. I'm simply saying there is an alternative to purchasing an OEM unit, and worse, buying an OEM from another country with a supplier that you assume is legit but may not be. If I desperately needed an RNS, I would pay the extra $1000 and buy it locally rather than risking $2000 OS.

But regardless of what unit you buy, if you buy locally, you have full back up and support. If it stuffs up, so what? It will be sorted- here, in Australia.

[tiggy888]

I purchased a unit from Auspak and to be honest I have not been able to fault it. I have not got around to fitting the reverse camera but everything else works as it was suppose to. It is not a super high tech bit of gear but if you work on the theory of value for money and don't expect to get the latest and greatest on the market you will not be dissapointed with your purchase.
Happy Tigging

[ploz58]

I purchased a unit from Auspack, and had a battery drain issue.

Rob totally backed his product and it now all works fine,
Cannot fault his after sales service, which you don't get when buying from China.

For the bit extra, it’s well worth it to get locally.


A customer that didn't buy from Rob also got help with his unit.

[msp]

Rob totally backed his product and it now all works fine,

I'm curious to know how this battery drain has been solved.

I don't mind to buy local and pay a bit more as long as the product works.

[clip]

I'm curious to know how this battery drain has been solved.

please don't bring that up again - it's been done to death and upsets some other members here. If you're really interested, I would contact Auspack and I'm sure they would be happy to explain how and why it works.

[Maverick]

I'm curious to know how this battery drain has been solved.

I don't mind to buy local and pay a bit more as long as the product works.

Read page 8 onwards for the current situation, entirely up to you if you're prepared to take the risk... IMO better to buy a head unit that's designed to work properly and not something that has to have a potentially harmful modification performed just to stop it from flattening the car's battery.

Flat battery problem after installing 9000-1 - any suggestions ?

please don't bring that up again - it's been done to death and upsets some other members here. If you're really interested, I would contact Auspack and I'm sure they would be happy to explain how and why it works.

Clip rather than asking him to talk to the people selling the faulty poorly designed head unit and the potentially harmful modification why not point him to the thread that explains in more detail the modification and the drawbacks and let him make up his own mind? You may not like reading about it but the head unit has serious flaws and this is why so many people are tossing the units and going back to OEM.

[msp]

please don't bring that up again - it's been done to death and upsets some other members here. If you're really interested, I would contact Auspack and I'm sure they would be happy to explain how and why it works.

Sorry I didn't mean to upset anyone. I've just wanted to know what was the latest fix, that was all.

I will contact Rob directly to know more about the latest situation.

Maverick, I thank for your useful inputs. At the moment, I've got no option. It comes to: this unit or nothing, as I can not afford the original one.