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  • #16
    Originally posted by Guy_H View Post
    We have just been doing some work on the 125kw petrol TSI Tiguan,

    Very, very impressed with the numbers:

    Series: 125KW 280NM
    Oettinger: 178KW 360NM

    We can do this with the Oettinger product (Warranty inclusive) in Brisbane now!
    Guy, I sincerely hope that's mine you've been working on today

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    • #17
      Very interesting ..... any other differences between the 125kw & 147kw other than exhaust & intercooler that are relevant ?

      Manual 125kw seems to be the 1 to go for .....

      APR ETA Guy ?
      Current: 2023 MY23 T-Roc R Lapiz Blue + Beats Audio + Black pack 2018 MY19 Golf R manual Lapiz Blue + DAP) 2018 MY18 Golf 110TSI (150TSI) Trendline manual White2014 Amarok TSI Red (tuned over 200kw + lots of extras) 2013 Up! manual Red 2017 Polo GTI manual Black Previous VWs and some others ...
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      • #18
        APR Calibration trip downunder in March - so should not be too much longer after that.

        Good thing with the 125kw version is it is running a 240mm clutch - so thats also a big plus!
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        • #19
          Holy Moly! That's an incredible gain! What difference are you expecting for the 150kw Tig?
          2000 Mk IV GTI

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Guy_H View Post
            We have just been doing some work on the 125kw petrol TSI Tiguan,

            Very, very impressed with the numbers:

            Series: 125KW 280NM
            Oettinger: 178KW 360NM

            We can do this with the Oettinger product (Warranty inclusive) in Brisbane now!
            Umm Guy, price ?

            On this Tiguan owners (and potential owners) important to note .......

            Golf GTI (147kw) with Oettinger results in 173kw 340NM ....

            The 125kw Tiggy actually responds better to tuning than the Golf GTI .....
            Current: 2023 MY23 T-Roc R Lapiz Blue + Beats Audio + Black pack 2018 MY19 Golf R manual Lapiz Blue + DAP) 2018 MY18 Golf 110TSI (150TSI) Trendline manual White2014 Amarok TSI Red (tuned over 200kw + lots of extras) 2013 Up! manual Red 2017 Polo GTI manual Black Previous VWs and some others ...
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            • #21
              The newer TSI gets a few more horses extracted than the old ones. More intake breathing is one of the factors from what I understand!

              Oettinger is $2495 - INCLUDING the 12 month engine / drivetrain & breakdown warranty.

              We can do them in Brisbane now & the duplicate programming gear should be at our dealers interstate in the following weeks / months.

              We can also do the 147KW motor - I do not have the power figures for that one yet but I understand they will be very similar (~ 178kw / 360nm)

              Don't forget all these figures are the typical conservative German DIN rated figures - not SAE!
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Guy_H View Post
                We can also do the 147KW motor - I do not have the power figures for that one yet but I understand they will be very similar (~ 178kw / 360nm)
                so on that basis it would seem the 125TSI is the pick! With the saved money you could get a suspension setup, intake setup and a decent set of wheels. After chipping it would look great and go hard.
                Last edited by RhysQ; 03-02-2009, 11:25 AM.

                2010 Reflex Silver MK6 Golf GTI
                Sunroof - MDI - Superchip - 19" VMR V710 - Kuhmo Ecsta SPT KU31 - VW Racing Panel Filter

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                • #23
                  So 125kw Tiguan (manual) should perform similar to an A3 Quattro with the chip. Similar weight, similar traction.

                  Quicker than a Golf GTI off the line due to better traction, slightly slower in rolling runs due more weight .....

                  With nice wheels & the sport bodykit it will be a very nice Q car indeed. Quick but not obviously so. I like that.
                  Current: 2023 MY23 T-Roc R Lapiz Blue + Beats Audio + Black pack 2018 MY19 Golf R manual Lapiz Blue + DAP) 2018 MY18 Golf 110TSI (150TSI) Trendline manual White2014 Amarok TSI Red (tuned over 200kw + lots of extras) 2013 Up! manual Red 2017 Polo GTI manual Black Previous VWs and some others ...
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Guy_H View Post
                    The newer TSI gets a few more horses extracted than the old ones. More intake breathing is one of the factors from what I understand!

                    Oettinger is $2495 - INCLUDING the 12 month engine / drivetrain & breakdown warranty.

                    We can do them in Brisbane now & the duplicate programming gear should be at our dealers interstate in the following weeks / months.

                    Don't forget all these figures are the typical conservative German DIN rated figures - not SAE!
                    Guy
                    how different is the torque curve, to standard (I believe 280nm 1750-4100rpm)?
                    what other mods, if any, would be required or recommended to deal with the extra power/torque?
                    keen
                    Tigga1
                    White 3-dr Polo GTI
                    Tiguan 189TSI

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Tigga1 View Post
                      Guy
                      how different is the torque curve, to standard (I believe 280nm 1750-4100rpm)?
                      what other mods, if any, would be required or recommended to deal with the extra power/torque?
                      keen
                      Tigga1
                      Guy, any comment....? :-]
                      White 3-dr Polo GTI
                      Tiguan 189TSI

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                      • #26
                        Does the Oettinger chip have the same multiple settings feature as the APR? e.g. "Stock", "Valet" and "Performance" settings?

                        Should you expect any accelerated wear on parts with this power gain?
                        2008 VRS Wagon. Yellow, very yellow!
                        Forever blowing bubbles.

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                        • #27
                          For what I've been told, no, the Oettinger remap does not come with the multiple setting option. But then I don't think I'd be changing them around anyway. I can imagine getting into a situation where I go to do something only to get into trouble because I was in the wrong mode, like the low power mode . I could see it causing me all sorts of grief!

                          Has APR released their version yet? As far as I know, only the Oettinger one is available at the moment.

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                          • #28
                            As far as I know the APR is a couple of months away. I'd definitely get the multi tune option though, at least that way the dealer will never know whats in there.
                            2008 VRS Wagon. Yellow, very yellow!
                            Forever blowing bubbles.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by clip View Post
                              Has APR released their version yet? As far as I know, only the Oettinger one is available at the moment.
                              Check out on Vortex



                              They show some having been done by APR BUT I don't know (being a diesel-head here) if it's the same motor.

                              Cheers
                              Derek
                              Alexandra
                              2022 R-Line Golf Mk8 in Kings Red Metallic
                              Previously 3 Tiguans 2008, 2013, 2017

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                              • #30
                                I spoke to Guy about 2 weeks ago now. APR will have a number of techs in the country this month and they will do testing & calibration work on any VAG model not seen in the USA.

                                Currently the USA has the 147kw Tiguan only so work will definately be done on the 125kw version this month.

                                Expect releases of ECU upgrades in the months to follow for a host of VAG Oz cars. I am waiting in particular for info on the 125kw Tiguan and the new 155kw Audi motors to make my purchase decision.

                                Also remember that the Tiguan drivetrain is pretty much what a S3 has as standard, so modifying it will place no more stresses on it than what VAG is prepared to do to other models in its range from the factory. Modify away you wont break it. For similar power curves look at the APR and Oettinger websites and in particular the Golf GTI's curves, it will give you an indication of what to expect.
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                                Current: 2023 MY23 T-Roc R Lapiz Blue + Beats Audio + Black pack 2018 MY19 Golf R manual Lapiz Blue + DAP) 2018 MY18 Golf 110TSI (150TSI) Trendline manual White2014 Amarok TSI Red (tuned over 200kw + lots of extras) 2013 Up! manual Red 2017 Polo GTI manual Black Previous VWs and some others ...
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