I scored a Tiquan deal thread

[TonyTA]

Yeah, seems to me that TDI are easier to get a hold of than TSI right now.
I think I remember speaking to one dealer in either SEQ or Sydney basin area this week who had a petrol demo, but can't find it in my notes likely cause I'm looking for a TDI).
If I find one, I'll let you know.

[TonyTA]

I just did an enquiry on a 125 Tiguan with heaps of options at Denlo VW in Sydney.
They said next scheduled production is Week12 (March) and add 10 weeks to that to get here. I would be very surprised if you actually got to drive away before July...

Anyone got any more info, or links to data on Tiguan production?

I've called over half a dozen dealers in SEQ and NSW the last week and all had stock of new TDI's. Several had half a dozen or more, plus demonstrators for sale and spouted about having more vehicles arriving over the next few weeks.

I'd like to understand the ebb and flow of upcoming supply so that if I end up ordering a specific colour and specific options, I've got some real idea of when it might arrive.

[NZTiguan]

Anyone got any more info, or links to data on Tiguan production?

The only people with accurate information (as far as it goes) are the dealers. I'm sure it's the same there as in NZ where you can sit down with the dealer at the computer and "see" all the Tigs that have been produced and are on their way to a particular country. It will show if they are sold or not, who they are allocated too, and exactly what options are on them.

That's how I got mine, sorted through all that was on its way, found the best compromise I could and then the dealer did a "deal" with the NZ dealer it was destined for by swapping one that was intended for him. So, I then even had the VIN number for my Tig which was sitting in Germany awaiting dispatch at the time.

You won't get any guaranteed info on stock that hasn't been produced though as they're so far behind on orders. Some people have been told a couple of months and waited up to a year !!!

So, my best advice is to sit with a good dealer and see what's already in the country and what's on its way and do a deal on a car that's already been built. That way you get as close as you can to what you what but are guaranteed it exists and at what price and delivery date !!

Cheers

[Sharkie]

If anybody can hold on and not buy for about 3 months, better supply should really be starting to flow through and better deals should be coming around.

Demand for right-hand drive Tiguans around the world have dropped significantly and VW Oz has been able to more than double their allocation. This means that significant numbers of all the models should be hitting our ports in the next 3 months.

Since I am no hurry, I will wait for enough to be standing around to make a good choice. By then the Audi Q5 will be out as well (end April) and I can make a good comparative decision. The Q5 will be better in every way but also cost at least $25K more

Obviously if you have 1 built to exact specifications, you will still have to wait .....

[NZTiguan]

By then the Audi Q5 will be out as well (end April) and I can make a good comparative decision. The Q5 will be better in every way but also cost at least $25K more

Q5 is coming here soon and the base model is nearly NZ $30,000 dearer than the Tig which is over 50% !!!!!!! Great vehicle BUT absolutely no good for any off-road work with a very low nose so it would be the Tig for me every time. Q5 is VERY impressive though and I guess if you took a fully loaded Tig as a comparison it would be more like 30% dearer, still a lot of dosh though and the big diesel (think it's 3 litre) is an EXTRA NZ$20000 which pushes it up to BMWX5 prices, mind you I'd much rather own a Q5 than an X5 !! Really not competition for the Tig though.

Cheers

[Sharkie]

Base Q5 in Australia apparently will have at least the following:

new gen 2.0TFSI - 155kw/350NM
7 speed DSG
Leather
19" Alloys
Cd Changer
Torsen permanent AWD 40:60 split F:R
Priced at about $62K

This actually compares favourably with the top spec Tiguan .....
$43K
6 speed tiptronic
old gen 2.0TFSI 147kw/280NM
17" Alloys
Leather $3.7K
CD Changer $850
4Motion part time 4WD - 90:10 split F:R
So, 43000+3700+850 = $48K and thats less than $15K AUD difference .... makes it a really attractive proposition.....

Yes, it will be pretty useless ofroad, but for that I have a 4WD DualCab ute ....

[NZTiguan]

CD Changer $850
4Motion part time 4WD - 90:10 split F:R
So, 43000+3700+850 = $48K and thats less than $15K AUD difference .... makes it a really attractive proposition.....

Yes I agree that's not a bad deal, in NZ from what I can gather we're only getting diesels (same as Tig) which makes the difference a bit greater as well. Still, if I had the bucks AND didn't need some off-road capabilities I'd love a Q5 !!

Cheers

[TonyTA]

The only people with accurate information (as far as it goes) are the dealers. I'm sure it's the same there as in NZ where you can sit down with the dealer at the computer and "see" all the Tigs that have been produced and are on their way to a particular country. It will show if they are sold or not, who they are allocated too, and exactly what options are on them.

That's how I got mine, sorted through all that was on its way, found the best compromise I could and then the dealer did a "deal" with the NZ dealer it was destined for by swapping one that was intended for him. So, I then even had the VIN number for my Tig which was sitting in Germany awaiting dispatch at the time.

You won't get any guaranteed info on stock that hasn't been produced though as they're so far behind on orders. Some people have been told a couple of months and waited up to a year !!!

So, my best advice is to sit with a good dealer and see what's already in the country and what's on its way and do a deal on a car that's already been built. That way you get as close as you can to what you what but are guaranteed it exists and at what price and delivery date !!

Good idea.

Did you negotiate a price up front for the various options you were looking for:
i.e. I'll pay $x for black Tig with Auto and sunroof?
Or $y for Red Tig with Auto, fog lights and sunroof?

Or did you wait until you found the Tig you wanted and negotiate price after that?

[NZTiguan]

Good idea.

Did you negotiate a price up front for the various options you were looking for:
i.e. I'll pay $x for black Tig with Auto and sunroof?
Or $y for Red Tig with Auto, fog lights and sunroof?

Or did you wait until you found the Tig you wanted and negotiate price after that?

At the time I got mine there was no negotiation available as they were very hard to get (mine was one of the first shipment into NZ), the dealers could sell all they could get their hands on and it was just a matter of "first in best Tig". Even now it's hard to get much of a deal as there's so many back-orders world wide. Guess that'll change over time BUT then the monetary situation will see price rises coming through so one will balance out the other. I think the best chance for a "deal" would be to purchase one of the models that's least wanted and so harder to sell but usually they're the poorly equipped ones that you wouldn't want anyway. I'd have to say I'm more than happy with what I paid for my Tig cos it's just so much better than any of the opposition (at least here in NZ) and the few extra dollars were "well spent" in my opinion.

Cheers

[echo_base]

I'm very close to buying a 125TSI auto here in WA. Skipper VW have told me that there is a shipment coming to Australia in May and, just so long as the model I order isn't too idiosyncratic, I should get delivery then.

I'm pretty much going to take the car 'as is', so hopefully I'll be able to get one in black.

Interestingly, the dealer delivery they quoted a few weeks ago was $2495, which is significantly below what some others have been talking about recently. No deals, though, it seems.

Does anyone know if going to an auto broker would result in something more reasonable?

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Does anyone know if going to an auto broker would result in something more reasonable?

not in my experience. My broker has always got great deals for me in the past (in fact huge savings), but not with the TIG. In fact, I got an ever so slightly better deal doing the negotiation myself directly with the dealer (seems a pretty sincere guy to be honest - but then?). Anyway, he did seem sympathetic, but explained it that:
1. they were in big demand, and
2. VW was screwing them down on margins to keep the RRP price low to compete with the Japs and then telling them to jack up their dealer deliver costs to give them some more margin (this does seem realistic and understandable to me - but then I'm naive when it comes to car sales industry)

I don't know who/what to believe really. Good luck getting a deal. Maybe if the market really starts to hurt here in AUS over the next few months, as it's done overseas recently, then you'll pick up a bargain. Then again, the price may go up with exchange rates etc. Who knows? I give up trying to work out the markets - might as well just have another beer and wait

[Sharkie]

I am still keen on a manual Tiggy, but not willing to pay the high dealer delivery costs atm. Luckily I'm not in a hurry and am more than comfortable in waiting untill the demand and supply issues sort themselves out.

I'll give it untill June to see what is in stock around the country and then seriously negotiate ..... end of FY and all ....

I expect then to be able to do a deal for pretty much RRP ... (drive-away including dealer delivery)

Time and patience is your friend when dealing with the stealers ......

[NZTiguan]

I am still keen on a manual Tiggy, but not willing to pay the high dealer delivery costs atm. Luckily I'm not in a hurry and am more than comfortable in waiting untill the demand and supply issues sort themselves out.

I'll give it untill June to see what is in stock around the country and then seriously negotiate ..... end of FY and all ....

I expect then to be able to do a deal for pretty much RRP ... (drive-away including dealer delivery)

Time and patience is your friend when dealing with the stealers ......

Enjoy your wait, hope it woks for you BUT I'd rather be driving my Tig thanks !!!

Cheers

[TonyTA]

Luckily I'm not in a hurry and am more than comfortable in waiting untill the demand and supply issues sort themselves out.

I'll give it untill June to see what is in stock around the country and then seriously negotiate ..... end of FY and all ....

Plus, you will be dealing purely with 2009 build's. None of these 08 models still floating around everywhere.

I've had a few dealers try to tell me they can't negotiate on an new Tiguan (same b/s excuse - it's all VWA's fauly), yet when you ask them they tell you the car they are selling you has an 08 build plate.

I'm sure that if you bought the Tiguan from them, parked it in their lot overnight and came back the next day they would be the first to quote you the red book value:
http://www.redbook.com.au/

At least Subaru are offering 'demonstrator deals' to protect the resale value while also moving left over 2008 build Foresters: http://www.subaru.com.au/quicklinks/...tar-driveaway/.

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I'm sure that if you bought the Tiguan from them, parked it in their lot overnight and came back the next day they would be the first to quote you the red book value:

holy ****! $13,000 loss on a 147 as soon as you drive it off the lot! And I thought Alfa's were bad! Why has everyone told me that VW's keep their resale? I think I'll cancel my order and buy a Ssanyong! Can't be any worse - then again, I could buy a Forester and loose the same $ amount but greater percentage loss.