MY17/MQB Platform Tiguan Discussion Thread

[Bassik]

Really I can't imagine putting a tune on a new vehicle you're totally voiding warranty and on new car anything can go wrong. Weigh up the pros and cons for tuning a straight out of box new Tig before making that decision. Even then if you tune it after the warranty that's a 3-5 yr wait before you can start getting any real enjoyment out of it. I hear some pretty good stories with JB1 and other piggy back options. I know it's probably not the safest way but at least you can DIY and take it off whenever especially for warranty claims or services.

[tigger73]

A lot of people drive it for 10,000km or wait until after first service and then tune it.

Most likely if you're going to have a problem it will happen early on.

Given I only keep my cars 3 years there's no point waiting until the warranty is over....

[Bassik]

A lot of people drive it for 10,000km or wait until after first service and then tune it.

Most likely if you're going to have a problem it will happen early on.

Given I only keep my cars 3 years there's no point waiting until the warranty is over....

Yeah for me not even an option unless it was a piggy back or after 3 yrs. I just couldn't justify it if the car had issues and needed to go in for warranty repair. JB1 would probably be my go to and they are less then half the price.

[Dutch77]

There's enough evidence from what I've seen to suggest that if they look hard enough they will know a piggyback has been there anyway - the ECU will still datalog all the car's behaviour even if some of the signals are being tricked.

Although I am no expert - and there is a cost saving - it's immaterial when you consider the price of the car and the gains to be had. Or just role with stock and buy some good wheels.

[alexkid]

Really I can't imagine putting a tune on a new vehicle you're totally voiding warranty and on new car anything can go wrong.

If you tune your car will it void the engine and drivetrain warranty or the whole lot?

If you return to the APR dealer to flash back to stock will it still show up a flag? I remember my Golf R VI being ok from memory but my Audi S3 8V having the new gen Bosch ECU and therefore possibly flags no matter what. Does the new Tig have a new gen ECU?

[tigger73]

If you tune your car will it void the engine and drivetrain warranty or the whole lot?

If you return to the APR dealer to flash back to stock will it still show up a flag? I remember my Golf R VI being ok from memory but my Audi S3 8V having the new gen Bosch ECU and therefore possibly flags no matter what. Does the new Tig have a new gen ECU?

It only voids the bit of the warranty that relates to the modification - so engine/drivetrain.

To give you an idea I had a coilpack go under warranty and I took it to the dealer and they replaced the faulty coilpack. The tune would have no effect on whether the coilpack failed so they replaced it. So even though it tuned if there are things that fail that are unrelated to the tune then they are still covered by the factory warranty.

VW has changed the way that it detects tunes and there's no guarantees now that flashing back to stock is going to be "undetectable". If you're going to tune it just treat it like you're out of warranty. Look after it, don't thrash it until the oil is up to working temp, perform intermediate oil changes and make sure your maintenance is up to date will all help make sure you have trouble-free motoring. Oh and if you have stop-start then turn it off as it's a bad thing for a hot turbo.

[Regdop]

Will the high end Dynaudio with sub woofer be an option? Haven't read/heard anything myself. Anyone have any info?

[aussietig]

Also if you want LED headlights or a flappy paddle steering wheel, you can also only get these in Highline trim.

I'm pretty sure you can just buy a flappy paddle steering wheel and swap it over!

Happy to guinea pig again on the Gen 2 Tig, although if it's offered in the Highline, it's virtually a given that it'll work!

In fact, have one lined up already if I go for a Comfortline or will sell it if I end up going for the Highline!

[tigger73]

Will the high end Dynaudio with sub woofer be an option? Haven't read/heard anything myself. Anyone have any info?

There's no mention of a higher end audio in any of the information that I've seen. This Car Advice article has the full specs for each model and model options: 2017 Volkswagen Tiguan pricing and specifications

The only difference I can see is the Highline gets the Discover Pro sat nav system, whereas the Trend/Comfortline models get the Composition Media infotainment system.

There's a few factory options that are missing, however I'm guessing VWA is catering for 95% of customers and the 5% that want different options will either have to live with the standard offering or fit an aftermarket system/part.

I'm pretty sure you can just buy a flappy paddle steering wheel and swap it over!

Happy to guinea pig again on the Gen 2 Tig, although if it's offered in the Highline, it's virtually a given that it'll work!

In fact, have one lined up already if I go for a Comfortline or will sell it if I end up going for the Highline!

Yes I know I was just hoping that the 132TSI would come with a flappy paddle steering wheel. The paddles must cost all of $20 to fit in the factory.

I actually had a Mk7 GTI wheel with paddles that I tried to fit into my wife's 155TSI, however couldn't get it to work properly so sold it. Now I wish I'd hung onto it

[Sharkie]

It says that the Comfortline gets SatNav, so what system would that be if not the Discover Pro?

[aussietig]

It says that the Comfortline gets SatNav, so what system would that be if not the Discover Pro?

The trusty old RNS510 brick?

[tigger73]

As far as the media/infotainment systems go:

The base Trendline is spec'd as a "Composition Media 8" Infotainment System" which will look similar to this:



The Comfortline is fitted with a "Discover 8" Satellite Navigation System"



The Highline is fitted with a "Discover Pro 8" Satellite Navigation System" which looks the same, but not sure of the differences between the "Pro" and standard Discover unit as both are the same size touchscreen (8").

[cellrsx]

Will the high end Dynaudio with sub woofer be an option? Haven't read/heard anything myself. Anyone have any info?

I'd love to know too.

When CarAdvice did a preview back in April (2016 Volkswagen Tiguan Review | CarAdvice) they mentioned "The Highline will likely get leather seats, a 400-watt 10-speaker stereo...". Sounds like the Dynaudio Excite but it hasn't been mentioned since.

Went to my local dealer today and he too confirmed the later arrival of the Highline models. Said they still don't know what they're getting as far as float stock for September but they will have a demo model in the showroom in August (no idea what trim level).

[Regdop]

I'd love to know too.

When CarAdvice did a preview back in April (2016 Volkswagen Tiguan Review | CarAdvice) they mentioned "The Highline will likely get leather seats, a 400-watt 10-speaker stereo...". Sounds like the Dynaudio Excite but it hasn't been mentioned since.

Went to my local dealer today and he too confirmed the later arrival of the Highline models. Said they still don't know what they're getting as far as float stock for September but they will have a demo model in the showroom in August (no idea what trim level).

Be sure to let me know if you find out anything!!...Cheers

[tigger73]

OK a little update for those looking at possibly getting the manual... Along with the 140TDI and 162TSI models being delayed, the entry level 110TSI manual also looks like it may not be available at product launch.

This transmission variant is not in any of the approvals and I also seem to remember hearing along the ways that it was going to be available later.

Anyway so if you're after the entry level Trendline Tig in manual you'll have to be a bit more patient.

The other thing worth mentioning here is that the 110TSI auto models are fitted with the 6 speed DQ250 DSG from the Golf GTI/R instead of the 7 speed DQ500 in the rest of the range. Not that this is a big issue but one worth noting if you're tossing up between getting a 110TSI and a 132TSI Comfortline.

For the extra $4.5k between the 110TSI and 132TSI you get AWD, upgraded engine and upgraded DSG gearbox.