MY17/MQB Platform Tiguan Discussion Thread

[Sharkie]

Yeah the boot is tonnes bigger and front on the car looks like a beast. No R specs on the floor sadly (it was a very small regional dealer. I was actually surprised to even see one at all out here!)

Nicely spotted mattaus!

I have just returned from 5 weeks in Europe with 3 of those weeks in or near Germany and did not see a single new Tig! Lots of other VWs, in fact by far the most common car on the road ...... I even stopped at a VW dealer in Fussen in Bavaria (near Neuschwanstein Castle) to have a look at whats on the floor.

EDIT: I did see a V6 TDI prototype Amarok though ..... go figure .... and a whole 3 weeks before they were officially announced!

[mattaus]

Nicely spotted mattaus!

I have just returned from 5 weeks in Europe with 3 of those weeks in or near Germany and did not see a single new Tig!

Yeah we were walking through Munich and a new Tig with advertising plastered all over it drove right past us so I figured if I saw a dealer on our road trip I'd pop in. Had a good laugh with the salesman (once I found one who spoke English) about how he wouldn't be getting a sale out of me ha-ha.

[tigger73]

Australian specs are out for the 2017 Tiguan: 2017 Tiguan - Road Vehicle Descriptor

Looks like the initial specs are showing 110TSI and 132TSI engines only (no diesel at this stage). I suspect VW aren't going to release a diesel until they clear out all the MY15 130TDI's that are caught up in the dieselgate saga.

Also there's no 162TSI either, though there are wheel options from 17 x 7 up to 20 x 8.5

[Sharkie]

You can also download the latest brochure (PDF) from VW UK. I did that yesterday. It has all the models except the 162TSI in there. Also has details of the 176kw BiTDI ....

Heads-up display and digital dash looks awesome.

This is still #1 pick for my wife's car replacement next year, though the timing may interfere with the arrival of my Mustang ......

[tigger73]

A little closer look at the specs comparison on the MY17 Tig:


110TSI

• Mk7 Golf GTI brake set-up (312mm front / 300mm rear)
• DQ250 6 Speed DSG
• FWD
• 1800kg (braked) towing capacity
• stock wheel 7Jx17 - 215/65 R17

132TSI

• Upgraded 340mm front brakes from Golf R
• DQ500 7 Speed DSG
• AWD
• 2500kg (braked) towing capacity
• stock wheel 7Jx17 - 215/65 R17 (same size)

[andrew7]

Shame they're delaying the diesel (as I'm in the market for one): also somewhat surprising given it generally makes up a large proportion of sales.

[OilBurna]

132tso looks ok assume easy to bump up the power with a tune

[tigger73]

Shame they're delaying the diesel (as I'm in the market for one): also somewhat surprising given it generally makes up a large proportion of sales.

Just FYI all the current MY15 130TDIs have been pulled from the market and are sitting at VWA waiting for a fix to the dieselgate issues. So my guess is they don't want to release the MY17 Tig diesel until they have cleared all the backlog of unsold MY15 stock.

132tso looks ok assume easy to bump up the power with a tune

Yes the good thing about the 132TSI is that it uses the 2 litre instead of the 1.8 litre motor. Should be able to tweak up to same levels as the current Mk7 GTI given that it's effectively the same motor.

[Janko]

110TSI

• Mk7 Golf GTI brake set-up (312mm front / 300mm rear)
• DQ250 6 Speed DSG
• FWD
• 1800kg (braked) towing capacity
• stock wheel 7Jx17 - 215/65 R17

any idea if it is possible to get this model with all the optional extras?

[tigger73]

any idea if it is possible to get this model with all the optional extras?

The 110TSI FWD will be the base/entry level model. The Road Vehicle Certification System (RVCS) only tells you the mechanical specifications of the vehicle in terms of weights/dimensions/engine capacity/etc.

For vehicle certification, it doesn't matter if the car has sat-nav or bi-xenon headlights with LED DRL's or not. The only thing that matters is options which impact on ADR compliance (Air Conditioning, Antilock Brakes, Power Windows, Power Mirrors, Driver's Airbag, Passenger's Airbag, Central Locking, Alloy Wheels, Side Airbags, Front Fog Lights, Rear Fog Light, Sun Roof, etc). You'll have to wait until closer to the launch date once the full specs/options are released for that type of information.

Also likely if you want a particular spec/colour you'll have to place an order for it as there will be limited options available at model launch.

[nickows]

Are the 132TSI and 162TSI effectively the same engine as found in the Golf GTI (with the 132TSI being detuned)?

Or are they a new (or overhauled) engine? I get the impression the 2.0 TFSI engine in the new Audi A4 (and updated Audi A3) is a new generation of engine, and wonder if the new Tiguan will get these same engines?

[tigger73]

Are the 132TSI and 162TSI effectively the same engine as found in the Golf GTI (with the 132TSI being detuned)?

Or are they a new (or overhauled) engine? I get the impression the 2.0 TFSI engine in the new Audi A4 (and updated Audi A3) is a new generation of engine, and wonder if the new Tiguan will get these same engines?

The current model 155TSI and 132TSI are essentially the same engine as Mk6 GTI with different states of tune.

The 2017 Tiguan is only coming as 132TSI at this stage (no 162TSI yet). This is an all new engine and not just the same as the MY15 132TSI, although it has identical output. I'm not sure what the differences are but MY17 Tig 132TSI is a CZPA engine compared to MY15 132TSI is CCZD. Whether it's just that MY17 Tig is the MQB platform and the older engine is for the PQ35, you'd have to dig into the details to see what the differences are.

[Sharkie]

New 2.0 TSI engines are Gen 3 EA888 as in the MK7 Golf GTI. 2 different states of tune. Expect the same power tuned from both (and the same essentially as a tuned MK7 GTI) ~210kw/500NM).

The difference will be in the other specifications with the 132 being the povo pack and the 162 being the top of the line, same as a current 132 and 155.

[tigger73]

New 2.0 TSI engines are Gen 3 EA888 as in the MK7 Golf GTI. 2 different states of tune. Expect the same power tuned from both (and the same essentially as a tuned MK7 GTI) ~210kw/500NM).

Tuning the new MY17 Tig will make for some quick SUVs running around the 'burbs.

The difference will be in the other specifications with the 132 being the povo pack and the 162 being the top of the line, same as a current 132 and 155.

But at this stage there is only a 110TSI FWD and 132TSI AWD model. There's no diesel and no high powered petrol option at launch (unless there's additional approvals).

It seriously looks like the diesel is going to be delayed and who knows if there will be a 162TSI or if they'll just run 2 levels of trim on the 132TSI (standard and highline).

We'll have to wait and see if we even get an R-line kit. From the wheel options it looks like there could well be something like this in the line-up as there's some wider wheel options in there which I imagine would be fitted with flared arches.

[nickows]

Thanks for the info tigger73 and Sharkie