The Official Mk7 Golf DSG / Clutch / Shudder / Squeal Issues Thread

[Kachingg]

Yup i have had a 6 speed wet for nearly 10 years a tdi golf now in my daughter's hands no issues with it at all
I have the newer 7 speed dq381 in my tdi Alltrack with a tuned motor and after 18 months its still bulletproof
They are very reliable if you service them every 60 thousand kilometres its not cheap as the oil is expensive but it must be done to ensure reliability

[agentthumb]

2015 103TSI, 2nd gear shudder. Went in for its 70k service, confirmed needs new clutch pack. $2,300

Also, water pump gasket leaking, $230, and window switch needs replacement as it's losing signal, ~$300

Requested goodwill from VW. Now we play the waiting game.

Goodwill came back 100% for all faults. Now to wait for the clutch pack from Singapore.


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[Maverick]

Goodwill came back 100% for all faults. Now to wait for the clutch pack from Singapore.


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That was fortunate, our MY14 Golf (end of 2013 build) which had around 50,000 kms on it had a leaking water pump last year and they only covered 45% on the price of the pump and no labour. We ended up paying $576 for the water pump fitted. They did cover 100% parts and labour on the DSG clutches however.

Halogen headlights with manufacturing fault they would only cover 45% of the parts price so I'm looking at alternatives.

[agentthumb]

That was fortunate, our MY14 Golf (end of 2013 build) which had around 50,000 kms on it had a leaking water pump last year and they only covered 45% on the price of the pump and no labour. We ended up paying $576 for the water pump fitted. They did cover 100% parts and labour on the DSG clutches however.

Halogen headlights with manufacturing fault they would only cover 45% of the parts price so I'm looking at alternatives.

Ouch, I think a combination of having only VW touch my car for servicing and being less than 12 months out of warranty helped my case. I have done 75k km tho...

Have you tried the wreckers?


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[Splashalot]

Not sure if this is the correct spot, but here goes.

What is the general feeling on DQ200 reliability on newer VAG cars? That is, in the last year or so.

General forum (here and US/UK) perusal suggests lots of issues, but most seem to be on cars several years old at least. Which may point to wear and tear related issues. But I'm wondering if more recent versions of this 'box are better. The link below suggests the DQ200 has been continually upgraded and improved. So is it now trustworthy?
Common Faults in the 7-Speed DSG Automatic Transmission | AxleAddict

Forum mods, please move if this is the wrong forum for this question.

Cheers

[Tuan]

General forum (here and US/UK) perusal suggests lots of issues, but most seem to be on cars several years old at least. Which may point to wear and tear related issues.

You'd want your gearbox to give you 0 issues within 'several years' of ownership. DQ200 just has a bad stigma to it - personally I'd stay away.

The good thing is that with a 5 year warranty, you can take it back as many times as you need to get it fixed !

[Splashalot]

Am I right in thinking that in the more recent versions of the DQ200, the vast majority of issues seem to relate to (what I would consider premature) wear and tear on the clutch packs? Replacement at ~50-75k seems relatively common with this 'box. Can any users/owners of DQ200-fitted cars verify this?

[Matticus]

I have a MY18 Golf R. Great car and gearbox in general.

I have a question about DSG behaviour when I first start the car in cold conditions. When I start moving, the car shudders slightly (like you're at the friction point in a manual). However, it doesn't happen again until the next cold start (it's perfect when driving normally and it has warmed up). Is this normal for the DQ381 gearbox?

[gregozedobe]

I only get that feeling when I start off reversing up a decent slope (which I rarely do from a cold start), and it feels more like the clutch is starting to engage and push against the auto-brake, as soon as the brake releases and we start to move it goes away. MY18 Golf R wagon DQ381 7 speed DSG

[Matticus]

I only get that feeling when I start off reversing up a decent slope (which I rarely do from a cold start), and it feels more like the clutch is starting to engage and push against the auto-brake, as soon as the brake releases and we start to move it goes away. MY18 Golf R wagon DQ381 7 speed DSG

Thanks gregozedobe. I'll try disabling the auto-brake and giving it another go. Otherwise, I'll assume it's because the gearbox hasn't warmed up yet and I'm driving slow to avoid an obstacle as I leave my car park space.

[nickw444]

A big thanks to everyone in this thread for helping me diagnose and get my DSG issues sorted. In the last 6-12 months I have noticed slipping in 3rd gear and chirp/squeaking as it shifted up under moderate load from K2 to K1. I have a 2016 Mk7 92 TSI, nothing too fancy.

Fortunately after showing the technician at the dealership my recordings, they were able to get a warranty replacement of the clutch packs organised (Car is still under warranty, 5 year). After getting it back, it feels to drive as it should in normal mode without any slip or chirping.

Here are a couple of videos that might help others diagnose similar issues:

Video of DSG Slip (1)
Video of DSG Slip (2)
Video of audible DSG Chirping (volume up!)

However, I unfortunately don't think this is where my story ends for my DSG problems... It's been 4 weeks since I took my car back from repair, but just on the past weekend put the car/transmission into "Sport" mode (barely sport on a 92 TSI lol). However, it definitely doesn't behave like it used to... Previously it was comfortable to drive the car in city/suburban traffic in sport and it had reasonable shift points, but now it just feels off.

My main notable issue I have noticed is that when taking off in 1st, it feels like the gearbox is trying to "launch" the car. It keeps the RPM fixed around 2k and slips the clutch whilst the car stays at walking pace, until it eventually either thuds into second or smoothly changes. This is a big issue in city/suburban traffic where you might be stopped at the occasional traffic light.

This is reproducible every take off when in "sport auto" under constant 25% accelerator position. Doing the same in "normal auto", "tiptronic sport", or "tiptronic normal" results in a smoother, lower RPM take off, and actually gets the car moving faster.

Here is a video of this happening:

I took the car back to the dealership today, who claimed to do an adaptation of the transmission (my dashcam footage suggests otherwise besides having the car in their possession all day), but with no improvement they state the car is driving as expected and there is nothing to be concerned about.

Is this true? Does anyone have similar behavior?

[elewoe]

Hi Guys,
I have a 2013 90 TSI and it has a similar issue as some of you guys described above, it shakes/shudders from 1st to 2nd gear when going uphill, and it is more frequent after I driving for awhile. Accroding to what has previously been discussed in this thread I guess it might need a clutch replacement? But since its been out of warranty for quite a few years is it still possible to get covered by VW, does anyone have some recent expeirence? (I have around 65000km on it)

[mosh_pit]

Hi Guys,
I have a 2013 90 TSI and it has a similar issue as some of you guys described above, it shakes/shudders from 1st to 2nd gear when going uphill, and it is more frequent after I driving for awhile. Accroding to what has previously been discussed in this thread I guess it might need a clutch replacement? But since its been out of warranty for quite a few years is it still possible to get covered by VW, does anyone have some recent expeirence? (I have around 65000km on it)

Hey Elewoe,
I've got the same issue, MY14 (bought it at end of 2013). Shudders from 1st to 2nd, usually gets worse after driving for a bit, or when the aircon's on, they confirmed at the dealership it was the clutch but painted it like it was normal wear (I have 43k on the car), the guy didn't mention anything about this being a design issue or a recall, maybe it IS normal, I don't know enough about cars or vdubs for that matter.
I just stumbled on this forum and skipped to the end, might do some more reading on the issue, I didn't think 43k on an 8 year span was much but there seem to be a line between an acceptable bad design and a recall. I doubt we'd be getting any discounts from the dealerships after that long.

[GolfAus]

I recently had a “Gearbox Error: OK to drive on” message come up along with an orange gear icon on my 7.5 Golf R. Stopped and restarted the car and the message disappeared but came on again shortly after. Car was still driving normally. Took it into local VW dealer and they gave me a call after doing some diagnostics stating that the car isn’t driveable. Car is 5 months out of (3 year) warranty.

The dealer has actually been very good, they have liaised with VW and they have recommended some kit to do with forks and are covering 100% of the costs. I have also been provided with a loan car (2020 Kia Cerato). I should have the car back next week and I really hope its fixed.

EDIT: Found out from the dealer today that their fix didn’t actually fix it. Now they are talking with VW to see if they will cover a complete mechatronics replacement 🤞

[hoskurner]

Harsh gear changes after clutch replacement

2013 Golf Highline purchased earlier in 2018 with around 45,000km. Clutches started slipping/shuddering in first gear and was diagnosed December 2018 with around 60,000km. Volkswagen covering 100% parts and labour. Clutches fitted January 2019.

Repair kit was 0AM198142G.

Just trying to gauge here what the car felt like after having the clutches replaced, does it settle down after the first 1k and the adaption phase?

Mine were replaced in my 2013 highline last week and the judder has gone 1st to 2nd gear but the gear changes, especially when getting a move on seem really harsh and quite abrupt.

Thanks