Voice Control and Speech - Issues and Questions

[Eaglehawk]

Thanks for the replies. Anyone know the TPI number?

[TJG]

Thanks for the replies. Anyone know the TPI number?

I believe this is it: TPI: 2039768/1

[sucnip]

Lol. The update is now available on the Australia section of the Map update website. Surprise! It's the same file.

Sucnip

[Kiaorana]

MIB ii - voice control activation required

Hi guys, I'm sure it's been asked already, but I can't seem to find a relevant thread. I picked up my MY16 GTI yesterday and when I pressed the voice control button on the steering wheel, it said on the screen that I require an activation key from the dealer.

Is that right?

[Ralfi]

Yeah that's right.

But why would you bother paying for ordinary voice control when you have access to the free Siri or Android voice functions?

[Kiaorana]

Thanks mate! I'm not planning on paying for anything! I was just wondering if they forgot to activate it before delivery. If that was the case I would have asked them to do so, but since I have to pay, I won't!

[Eaglehawk]

Thanks mate! I'm not planning on paying for anything! I was just wondering if they forgot to activate it before delivery. If that was the case I would have asked them to do so, but since I have to pay, I won't!

Is this your first VW?

VW in typical form, despite the brochure saying it was standard (well, back in 2013 anyway), want the nerve to charge for this option. Just doing some expectation management before you come and post about how they want to charge $$$ for something.

Let's hope your MY16 is MEANT to have it...good luck!

[Ralfi]

Thanks mate! I'm not planning on paying for anything! I was just wondering if they forgot to activate it before delivery. If that was the case I would have asked them to do so, but since I have to pay, I won't!

Good stuff. Siri's miles ahead of it. Not perfect, but tremendous value for money for a voice activation feature You'll love it.

[pologti18t]

Is this your first VW?

VW in typical form, despite the brochure saying it was standard (well, back in 2013 anyway), want the nerve to charge for this option.

It's an option on the Golf in the UK.

And no mention of it in MY16 Golf Brochure

[Kiaorana]

Is this your first VW?

VW in typical form, despite the brochure saying it was standard (well, back in 2013 anyway), want the nerve to charge for this option. Just doing some expectation management before you come and post about how they want to charge $$$ for something.

Let's hope your MY16 is MEANT to have it...good luck!

It's not actually, I had an MK6 GTI which had voice recognition, hence why I'm surprised!

[Seph]

It's not actually, I had an MK6 GTI which had voice recognition, hence why I'm surprised!

Guys, I've got an MY16 R, with MIIB 6.5" - are these units in the same situation as the older discover units? My voice control button also does not work....

anyone tried any of the above with MIIB yet?

[DV52]

Guys, I've got an MY16 R, with MIIB 6.5" - are these units in the same situation as the older discover units? My voice control button also does not work....

anyone tried any of the above with MIIB yet?

Seph: It's little solace (I know), but the situation with Voice Control hasn't changed since the release of the MY13 Golf - yet further evidence of the glacial pace at which VW Australia moves! If you look at the first few pages in this thread, you will read the similar frustrations of us early buyers of the mk7. I was able to get VC fitted (without incurring a charge from VW Australia) and I wrote-up a short few words about the facility (complete with pictures) which you can find HERE . But I have to say that I've seldom used the facility [it's limited in application and it often confuses my words).

As for MIBII, when I got VC, I did some work with a couple of forum colleagues here to see if we could just tweak the coding string on the MIB unit to enable VC. We found that whilst there did need to be a change to the code at address 5F (Byte 24 , Bit 1 needs to be set), the MIB doesn't have the VC software as default from the factory. Some models (like some Audi models) do have this software inbuilt into the car's DNA- but not the mk7. This was for MIB ver1, but it sounds like the situation is the same for MIBII

Cheers
Don

[Seph]

Seph: It's little solace (I know), but the situation with Voice Control hasn't changed since the release of the MY13 Golf - yet further evidence of the glacial pace at which VW Australia moves! If you look at the first few pages in this thread, you will read the similar frustrations of us early buyers of the mk7. I was able to get VC fitted (without incurring a charge from VW Australia) and I wrote-up a short few words about the facility (complete with pictures) which you can find HERE . But I have to say that I've seldom used the facility [it's limited in application and it often confuses my words).

As for MIBII, when I got VC, I did some work with a couple of forum colleagues here to see if we could just tweak the coding string on the MIB unit to enable VC. We found that whilst there did need to be a change to the code at address 5F (Byte 24 , Bit 1 needs to be set), the MIB doesn't have the VC software as default from the factory. Some models (like some Audi models) do have this software inbuilt into the car's DNA- but not the mk7. This was for MIB ver1, but it sounds like the situation is the same for MIBII

Cheers
Don

Thanks Don, comprehensive answer.

Anyone found a way to perhaps make it a mute button instead? Pressing it just gives it an annoying error message, may as well make it semi useful,,,,

[mythik]

Just had this installed via BurwinVW. Part number 5G0054802A.

The activation was done using function deactivation within the Offboard Diagnostic Information System Service. There is no way we are able to enable this using VCDS as this is a part of the component protection system submission to VW setup.

Process: The code from the booklet was entered in, a bunch of crap and a submission of the new coding to vw later with approval and it was done. The power on the headunit needed cycling by pressing and holding the power button on the radio for 10 seconds and that was it.

[DV52]

Just had this installed via BurwinVW. Part number 5G0054802A.

The activation was done using function deactivation within the Offboard Diagnostic Information System Service. There is no way we are able to enable this using VCDS as this is a part of the component protection system submission to VW setup.

Process: The code from the booklet was entered in, a bunch of crap and a submission of the new coding to vw later with approval and it was done. The power on the headunit needed cycling by pressing and holding the power button on the radio for 10 seconds and that was it.

mythic: Interesting information - thanks for sharing!

Somewhat surprised about the need to interface with Component Protection - I had thought that VW's FAZIT was used for this activity. I was aware that J794 (the infotainment unit in the glove box) was included in what VW calls the "constellation" of control modules for CP (in fact, all control modules that are connected to the MOST150 ring topology are covered by CP), but I'm surprised that adding the SD Card software for Voice Control involved resetting CP protocols - strange (IMO).

Before your post, I had thought that the only level of surveillance by the CAN Gateway for CP breaches was at a control module identity level. My understanding was that the CAN Gateway interrogates each of the control modules in the constellation at each ignition switch-on. If the identity of any of the control modules in the constellation are not identical to the identity at the previous ignition switch-on, CP errors were generated. Your information suggests that the interrogation protocols happen at a much deeper level than just the identity of the control module (i.e. it also includes features within the control module like VC) - Interesting and entirely new information - to me at least!!

Any new facts are always welcomed in the mysterious world of the mk7!!
Thanks again
Don