Headlights - Discussion and Questions

[TJG]

As booba said every 5th wash but on my Mk7 R they will only activate if the headlights are turned on. On my Mk6 R they activated every 5th wash regardless.

[boardie_19]

Thanks for this.

I have attempted to use the windscreen washers upon vehicle start up... nothing. In saying this, with lights always in the 'auto' position, it was daytime, with only running lights on... perhaps it does only work when the physical lights are on.

I will give it another go and see what happens!

[TJG]

Yes - the headlights have to be actually on. I had a headlight washer repaired and it took me quite a while to figure out how to test it - Thought it would be like the Mk6 - but it's not.

[boardie_19]

... Just checked my 2014 Golf 103TSI Highline | DSG | Limestone Grey Metallic | Leather | Sunroof | Bi-Xenons | Alarm | Tints... and to my surprise it has two U lamps. Both lamps light up also.

Our vehicle was accidentally fitted with the high beam assist feature that is not available in the Australian market. Sales guy only realised when he was showing us the thru the vehicle upon delivery. Their loss is our gain!

[godzilla_110TDI]

^^ Pics or it didn't happen

[boardie_19]

what???

[veew]

... Just checked my 2014 Golf 103TSI Highline | DSG | Limestone Grey Metallic | Leather | Sunroof | Bi-Xenons | Alarm | Tints... and to my surprise it has two U lamps. Both lamps light up also.

Our vehicle was accidentally fitted with the high beam assist feature that is not available in the Australian market. Sales guy only realised when he was showing us the thru the vehicle upon delivery. Their loss is our gain!

I'm sure everyone else on the forum also wants to see plenty of picks of your unicorn golf! Preferably as many of the headlights as possible.

[boardie_19]

The U lamps light up, one at a time... if this is what you are referring to. One during the day and then one at night when the auto function kicks in.

[Brendan_A]

^^ Pics or it didn't happen

What he said. I find it hard to believe your highline would have Golf R style headlight clusters.

[boardie_19]

When the headlights are on at night, it looks like both lamps are lit up. I'm no expert believe me...

Just googled what an 'R' headlights look like... it doesn't look like that.

[pologti18t]

Do they look like this?

[boardie_19]

pologti19t,

From a distance yeah... but only one U in the day... my bad. At night it looks like all of the headlamp assembly lights up.

[veew]

Go to http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/...mps-98267.html for the Group Buy thread. Old information below.

Some guys from Brazil ordered some WinPower xenon headlights for their cars which look good and are reportedly easy to fit. These headlights do not however, from what I understand, have the full headlight self-levelling hardware that would come with genuine units (or those ordered from Kufatec web, refer to post 9: Xenon Lights + LED DRL retrofit - GOLFMK7 - VW GTI MKVII Forum / VW Golf R Forum / VW Golf MKVII Forum). The Kufatec headights and all the other accessories end up costing way more than factory optioned xenons, the WinPower lamps cost way less.

Clarification: The contact at WP lamps state they are self-levelling but don't have active corner assist functions. (I reckon these aren't self levelling as I've seen the additional parts required for OEM-like installation of xenons on Mk6 Golfs, still you will be able to adjust the light beam from inside the car and under the bonnet).

If you go to this thread (Xenon Lights + LED DRL retrofit - Page 2 - GOLFMK7 - VW GTI MKVII Forum / VW Golf R Forum / VW Golf MKVII Forum) you'll see the WP headlights from post 21.
The kits have the RHD cutoffs, will come with all the connections and are plug and play. From what I understand (from the GolfMk7 guys who installed these lights) VCDS is required to keep the "U" lights on with the low beam headlights.

There are 3 versions but they can only do V2 and GTi for RHD markets.
V1 (R replicas) info: VW Golf R MK7 LED Headlight V1 -- -Volkswagen LED headlight -- 产品展示 -- Win power International Technology Co.,Ltd Official Website
V2 (Highline replicas) info: VW Golf 7 OEM LED headlight V2 -- -Volkswagen LED headlight -- 产品展示 -- Win power International Technology Co.,Ltd Official Website
GTi Replicas: VW golf MK7 GIT version headlight -- -Volkswagen LED headlight -- 产品展示 -- Win power International Technology Co.,Ltd Official Website

Videos of the different versions:
This is a video for V1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8QHwdeD6lE
They sent me this link for V2: http://en.mail.qq.com/cgi-bin/ftnExs...&code=93911a87 (if this link doesn't work, I'll upload the video I downloaded)
This is also V2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbkoghAuwGE

In the picture below, the V2 xenon is bi-xenon with a H7 halogen highbeam for the inner headlight. In the first 12 seconds of the first V2 video, you can see light distribution on the glass encasing the xenon and fingerprints on the headlight casing change with the activation of the halogen high beam. Therefore low beam is xenon only and high beam xenon supplemented by the H7 halogen. Both U's light up in the first V2 video.
HOWEVER
In the 2nd V2 video, the headlights appear to function exactly like OEM Highline and GTi bixenons (ie. Only one U lights up). I'm in the process of clarifying this with Mark so will update once I find out. I suspect the V2s will function exactly like OEM Highline and GTi xenons so please take this into consideration when buying. It would be better to expect only one to light up and end up with both working rather than vice versa.




Screenshots from the first V2 video:
V2 DRLs only

V2 DRLs and xenon low beam

V2 DRLs and xenon low beam + (?) parking indicator setting

V2 DRLs, xenon high beam, halogen high beam + (?) parking indicator setting

V2 xenon only

V2 indicator only


Light output for LHD V1s:


Installation:
Apparently the installation of the headlights is pretty easy. Removal of the central grill and removal of the bolts that hold the side of the front bumper in place. The front bumper does not need to be completely removed from the car for the installation.

Solvalou's description outlining what he is referring to in the first video link below:
"The installation is very easy. If you watched my video Ill try to explain some stuff I said in the video.
Bumper and front grill uses Torx T25 screws. The headlight uses Torx T30 screws. There are also 2 M10 10mm screws that need to be removed inside the bumper so you can unsnap the side of the bumper.

First I show in the video 4 screws you need to remove from inside the wheel compartment. Then there are 2 more underneath the bumper. After that you need to unscrew 2 more screws on the front grill. After that you need to pull the front grill towards your direction to unsnap it from that other plastic plastic behind it. The main lock is located near that hole that I show in the video. When you unsnap it and the front grill is loose, you need to move it up to disconnect it from the bumper.

There are 4 screws on the headlight. I show them on the video. One I couldn't show because the front grill was blocking it and also there is a side one that the bumper was blocking. The one at the back of the headlight that is deeper inside you don't need to remove completely, just unscrew it a little bit and you will be able to slide the headlight out. Also remember that even after removing all the headlight screws you need to pull the bumper a little bit toward the front of the car because there are some hooks at the front of the headlight underneath the bumper holding it in place. After you pulled the bumper you need to move the headlight a little bit up to free up the hooks so you can slide it out. Remember also to remove the main headlight harness cable before you pull it out.

You just need to do everything in inverses order to install the new headlight."




Solvalou's Youtube videos all in Portugese.
1) This shows you what bolts need to be removed (just follow which bolts he indicates by looking at his pen torch light). Jump to 8:30 to see him turn on the car and see the headlights in action. Unfortunately the light output isn't displayed that well here, I will be posting more videos of this as I get them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tQWJhOj-cQ

2) Adjusting headlight aim. I can't really follow it so only really helpful if you speak Portugese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ps2bSOLr78

AND

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyqNTybnhjM

LuanF's V1 videos:
External - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V67IEZo7q18 (read description regarding DRL brightness)
Light performance low & high beam - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6H9qF72jsQ

Pricing:
GB pricing would be $US385/set, they are usually $US545 a set.

Minimum Group Buy numbers:
Either 20 sets of V2 headlights
OR
10x V2 and 10x GTi

EOIs so far:
http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/...mps-98267.html

[booba]

Bi Xenon are a must imo.

[couchmotorist]

I think they're just like the standard xenon headlights then, unless you're suggesting both "U" things light up like the R xenons. Best to just put up pictures and that'll clear everything up.

Anyway, I had posted in the "What Accessories are you buying for your MK7 Golf?" thread about these but thought it would be best to put them here too, would be good to see if people are interested to eventually do a group buy. I'm in no rush at the moment but may consider it down the track.

Essentially some guys from Brazil ordered some WinPower xenon headlights for their cars which look good and are reportedly easy to fit. These headlights do not however, from what I understand, have the full headlight self-levelling hardware that would come with genuine units (or those ordered from Kufatec web, refer to post 9: Xenon Lights + LED DRL retrofit - GOLFMK7 - VW GTI MKVII Forum / VW Golf R Forum / VW Golf MKVII Forum). The Kufatec headights and all the other accessories end up costing way more than factory optioned xenons, the WinPower lamps cost way less. Clarification: The contact at WP lamps state they are self-levelling but don't have active corner assist functions.

If you go to this thread (Xenon Lights + LED DRL retrofit - Page 2 - GOLFMK7 - VW GTI MKVII Forum / VW Golf R Forum / VW Golf MKVII Forum) you'll see the WP headlights from post 21.
These brazilian guys did a group buy and were able to get them for pretty decent prices. I enquired through the website (with prompt replies from Mark) who told me they can do RHD versions, which essentially means installing the correct cutoff. Everything else remains the same. The kits come with all the connections and should be plug and play. From what I understand (from the GolfMk7 guys who installed these lights) VCDS is required to keep the "U" lights on with the low beam headlights (?).

There are 2 versions but they can only do V2 for RHD markets (for orders of 20 or more).
V1 (R rep) info: VW Golf R MK7 LED Headlight V1 -- -Volkswagen LED headlight -- 产品展示 -- Win power International Technology Co.,Ltd Official Website
V2 (GTi rep) info: VW Golf 7 OEM LED headlight V2 -- -Volkswagen LED headlight -- 产品展示 -- Win power International Technology Co.,Ltd Official Website

The V1 xenons are apparently low beam only (according post 33, luanf on GolfMk7 thread) and high beam are the solely inner halogen lights.

In the V2 description it states "High low beam is projector, high beam is halogen bulb only. DRL Two "U" bright, LED one "U" bright, halogen turning light". I asked Mark what they meant by the 2 "U" bright and one LED "U", they stated that both U's have a DRL function where they are on 50% intensity, only one of them has the ability to illuminate to 100%. In the video of the V2 unit, it appears both U's appear equally bright so I'm not sure what they mean by one being LED.

This is a video for V1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8QHwdeD6lE
They sent me this link for V2: http://en.mail.qq.com/cgi-bin/ftnExs...&code=93911a87 (if this link doesn't work, I'll upload the video I downloaded)

Clarification: As per the picture, the V2 xenon is claimed to be bi-xenon with a H7 halogen highbeam for the inner headlight. Both U's are shown to be LED. In the first 12 seconds of the V2 video, you can see light distribution on the glass encasing the xenon and fingerprints on the headlight casing change with the activation of the halogen high beam. Therefore low beam is xenon and high beam is both halogen and xenon.



Screenshots from the V2 video:
V2 DRLs only

V2 DRLs and xenon low beam

V2 DRLs and xenon low beam + (?) parking indicator setting

V2 DRLs, xenon high beam, halogen high beam + (?) parking indicator setting

V2 xenon only

V2 indicator only


Pricing:
GB pricing would be $US385/set, they are usually $US545 a set.

I'm currently clarifying a few other details: If the price mentioned included P&H...

Anyway, I'm also chasing up the forum members on the GolfMk7 website that installed their headlights to see if anyone did a step by step DIY, more pictures of the light output and to see how their headlights progress over the next few months.

Has anyone put their hand up for these yet? "veew" how are you looking for numbers at this stage? I'm very keen to jump on board, specifically for the GTI version with the red strip. Personally I think V2 is preferable because it looks closest to OEM. V1 has two projector lamps and without the extra lamp poking out the side, behind the main beam halogen bulb.