Mk7 Golf R Discussion Thread

[DoggieHowser]

Mk7 Golf R Speculation Thread

Doesn't the S3 use a 7 speeder DSG? Why does the Golf get the short end of the stick? That gearbox is good for even the TTRS as I recall.

[elephino]

2014 Volkswagen Golf R: icy unveiling for flagship hot-hatch |*CarAdvice

It looks like it'll be detuned again

That article isn't suggesting it's detuned compared to the EU version, just compared to the S3.

[tigger73]

Doesn't the S3 use a 7 speeder DSG? Why does the Golf get the short end of the stick? That gearbox is good for even the TTRS as I recall.

Yeah they even stick the DQ500 in the Tig. I think this is mainly due to heavier weight/towing capacity.

[DoggieHowser]

Yeah they even stick the DQ500 in the Tig. I think this is mainly due to heavier weight/towing capacity.

why is why it boggles the mind why the R won't have the DQ500!

[tigger73]

why is why it boggles the mind why the R won't have the DQ500!

It'd mean the tuners wouldn't sell so many DSG upgrade kits for starters.

[DoggieHowser]

It'd mean the tuners wouldn't sell so many DSG upgrade kits for starters.

I don't think VW is thinking of the aftermarket segment, The 6 speeder used in the GTI is fairly robust too.

It's more likely a product differentiation. But an R badge should count for something.

[AdamD]

why is why it boggles the mind why the R won't have the DQ500!

Just because that article states it doesn't mean it's fact. Until VW reveals it, that info is all speculation.

My money's on the DQ500 at this stage - it has a higher maximum torque rating (the 6-speed is rated by VW to 350Nm).

[orkers]

Looks like the "Frozen Beast" reveal (Volkswagen R GmbH / Die Leidenschaft des Motorsports - weiterentwickelt) wasn't the new Mk7 R at all, but the convertible R which looks like it's still based on the Mk6 design?

Boo.

[dsta]

bloody hell, what a disappointment :s

[INOV8]

Talk about an anticlimax! I was looking forward to seeing the new R
May still be unveiled at Geneva though, fingers crossed

[Paul_R]

WJ has a link to an article in the Mk 6 GTI vs R thread.

Golf R will have 210kW, 380Nm, 1200kg!!!, better exhaust note and better Haldex system.

I'm excited...

[AdamD]

This is the link...

New VW Golf R heads seven new models | Autocar

...and it's pure fiction on the weight front. 1350-1400kg depending on doors, transmission and spec is my guess. (The 2013 Audi S3 3-door weighs 1395kg.)

[skartua858]

might get restricted down here ?

[cktsi]

So look to the just announced S3 stats for pointers to the R

2014 Audi S3 Sportback 5-door Unveiled, On Sale In Australia Late In 2013 | Reviews | Prices | Australian specifications

The S3's improvement is not enough. It is abt to get its arse kicked badly by this

Mercedes A 45 AMG Hot Hatch Revealed: Power, Features And Specifications | Reviews | Prices | Australian specifications

I would think the S3 would be priced close to the A45 AMG in which case there is no contest.

Golf R will have it good being at a much lower price point.

[Daz85]

The S3's improvement is not enough. It is abt to get its arse kicked badly by this

Mercedes A 45 AMG Hot Hatch Revealed: Power, Features And Specifications | Reviews | Prices | Australian specifications

I would think the S3 would be priced close to the A45 AMG in which case there is no contest.

Golf R will have it good being at a much lower price point.

I Don't think the S3 is meant to compete with the A45, 70k vs 80-90k. Audi still needs to release the RS3 which should closely match the A45.