Mk7 Golf R Discussion Thread

[DoggieHowser]

Mk7 Golf R possibly with 221kW

I think candyman is saying the R looks better.

Ps I do agree that the BMW and Mercs have a high markups but I also read that the discounts can be quite substantial vs VWs which are barely discounted outside of the Driveaway deals or corporate discounts (which aren't open to all or are increasingly curtailed)

[alebonau]

in considering my next car, I did take a peep at the golf R but my god I got a shock when optioned up it soon bacame a $75 k prospect ? people spending that sort of dough on a golf ? I hope they pack a bit more standard gear in the golf R for the mk7 ! really keen to see what the mk7 looks in the flesh. the golf and gti look a tad tame am hoping the mk7 golf r has a bit more edge to it

[Ryan_R]

Don't go checking out how much a spec'd up BMW, Merc, or Audi hatchback costs then

[pologti18t]

in considering my next car, I did take a peep at the golf R but my god I got a shock when optioned up it soon bacame a $75 k prospect ?

Always amused by people who check every option box on a car then complain how expensive it is
If you can pick up a Golf R DSG for 56K how do you add 20K more to the price?

[DoggieHowser]

Always amused by people who check every option box on a car then complain how expensive it is
If you can pick up a Golf R DSG for 56K how do you add 20K more to the price?

The question isn't the options per se but what should be included. I think the Golf R is fairly well spec-ed but the lack of Adaptive Chassis one of the "selling points" of the MkVI seems a bit low-rent to me.

[alebonau]

Don't go checking out how much a spec'd up BMW, Merc, or Audi hatchback costs then

well thats the problem, newer cars are coming with a lot more stuff as standard. eg the merc a250 as you have suggested all I'd need would be a command pack to add to a pretty well loaded standard car. ofcourse the golf r for same spec level needs options taking to $77k actually. ofcourse the golf r is 0.5s quciker I think and 4wd but why is it so much more expensive ?

a fully loaded roc is $61k seems a lot more car for the money and much better value,

a golf gti needs $17.6k of options ! and coming upto $67k to match the a250 merc which is $58k on the road with the command option !

note I havent added every option on the list, just those to match an a250 merc.

bmw no question theyre stupidly priced and can imagine audi is no different they go through the roof when option up. and we all know spending up on options makes no sense as they mean didly squat on resale.

[Ryan_R]

Guess there must be a few people out there who just want the go fast bits for the least price. Can always get a nicely spec'd 2nd hand R for around 45k

[cktsi]

I have been considering the R and it is not $77k. The list price for all options except hk sound is $63k. I have never paid on roads so that's the fair price to be evaluating against mercs, BMW and audi's.

Still works out cheaper than the c250.... Plus the r is quicker than the c250 and A4. At this spec u have to ask if u want the R or the A4 or 328i

[alebonau]

I have been considering the R and it is not $77k. The list price for all options except hk sound is $63k. I have never paid on roads so that's the fair price to be evaluating against mercs, BMW and audi's.

Still works out cheaper than the c250.... Plus the r is quicker than the c250 and A4. At this spec u have to ask if u want the R or the A4 or 328i

ooh I think I stuffed up there as doubled up on gps, dyn and gps+dyn option pack. either way its $72,179 not sure how can get cheaper.

I'm using the carsales calculator which have found usually pretty correct.
New Volkswagen Golf Hatch Specs

options are GPS+dyn pack($3,600), sunroof electric ($1,900), camera rear vision ($500), motorsport front seats microfibre leather ($5300),

thats a list price of $52,490 of the car plus total of $11,300 of options, on road cost is $6,194, dealer delivery is $2194 all up $72,179

would you mind giving us a list of what your suggesting for each option please in that case as theres no way I'd get $63k for a golf R with the lot apart from HK sound whatever that is.

also please keep in mind ,my listing of pricing didnt include any discounting. just talking list price. discounting is a can of worms, what I get as discount from certain dealer on a certain car wont be what you get under different circumstances.

also am not comparing with c250 or a4 as they are sedans am comparing with just the merc a250 hatch at this stage

its just in my initial exploration I do think pricing is something vw does have to do something about as seems out of kilter with what else is out there in models and brands from other makers.

I accept totally whats been said earlier that some might just get the base car and be happy with it bare bones. for me though looking new am comparing with a car that comes with a lot more as standard so I guess am trying to compare them on an even footing. I also do like these options so not a case of just loading up a car. my mk6 golf gti I got with leather and sunroof only and in hindsight I wish I had some of the other goodies but even there the gti new with options loaded up seem to get a bit silly. and something I do hope vw work on the mk7

[readerr0r]

What alebonau really points out is that options never go in price for the life of a model. Options may get added onto it as standard in Model Year updates (ie my Polo had $1500 of options added as standard while it was waiting to be built) but the prices for the remaining ones never drop.

So when something like the Mk6 which is nearing it's run compares to newer vehicles, things can get awkward pretty fast...

The best way to save in your situation is the question how much you want the Sunroof and save about $1000 by just getting the Dynaudio package alone and getting a good place like JKU.com.au to supply and install an RNS510 for cheaper.

[cktsi]

would you mind giving us a list of what your suggesting for each option please in that case as theres no way I'd get $63k for a golf R with the lot apart from HK sound whatever that is.

Ooopss... I'll have to back track a bit. I mis-read alebonau and he typed A250, not C250. I was trying to spec up a Golf R to match a C250/ Audi A4 Quattro 2 TSI / 328i. So I added leather (not the sports seat or it wouldn't be equivalent), electric seat, RNS510. We're at $59k. I was being a bit fanciful and threw in adaptive chassis (which only the C250 has as standard) plus sunroof (which I want anyway) to get to $62,300.

Since the A4 Quattro & 328i are roughly in the same performance ballpark (the 328i more-so), we're getting pretty close and there's only $4k in it.

My logic was that since we're in the ballpark region, if I wanted to make the leap, I'm only adding another $5k-$7k which isn't much at this price level. Of course at a lower price point $7k is a larger proportion of the car's cost.

also am not comparing with c250 or a4 as they are sedans am comparing with just the merc a250 hatch at this stage

True... I should not be comparing hatches with sedans. The only reason I was mentioning the A4 and 328i was to illustrate the point that a specc'ed up R brings you very close to the price point of Bimmers & Audi's that are close in performance. But to make the comparison valid, I had to spec up the R by putting in electric seats, leather, nav etc

A 328i with sunroof & adaptive suspension is $68,650... but comes with leather, nav, electric as standard & close in performance to the R.

btw, I'm using list prices here with no discounts... and I think it is possible to negotiate the R with the RRP as drive away.

[alebonau]

thanks cktsi, some interesting comparisons there,

What alebonau really points out is that options never go in price for the life of a model. Options may get added onto it as standard in Model Year updates (ie my Polo had $1500 of options added as standard while it was waiting to be built) but the prices for the remaining ones never drop.

So when something like the Mk6 which is nearing it's run compares to newer vehicles, things can get awkward pretty fast...

The best way to save in your situation is the question how much you want the Sunroof and save about $1000 by just getting the Dynaudio package alone and getting a good place like JKU.com.au to supply and install an RNS510 for cheaper.

hi reader, yep to give you an idea when we went to buy my wifes mazda3 on run out the 1st salesman we talked to, tried to tell me mazda dont discount and was trying to charge me the same price for the run out model as a new model even though the new model had stability control as standard etc etc. long story short went to another dealer and got the run out model at pretty hefty discount.

look similar thing might happen to the golf r if new model has more stuff as standard where you paying extra for it as options on the existing model. good for people buying the new model but not good for those whom already paid more for the older model. a trap with any car I guess !

[Ryan_R]

You could also spend that $5k-$7k modifying the Golf R to make it a lot quicker than those Mercs and Audis

[AdamD]

Guys, this thread is not for determining the best deal price on a Mk6 R (or anything else for that matter). Let's get back on topic please.

[alebonau]

Guys, this thread is not for determining the best deal price on a Mk6 R (or anything else for that matter). Let's get back on topic please.

am keen to know what the golf R mk7 will have as standard, the point is the mk6 can end up a bit silly in price with options and question is will the mk7 be the same