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  • 2016 Alltrack has its front LH door and RH door mixed up

    Hi everybody!

    I have a problem with the electronics inside my 2016 Golf Alltrack. I shall provide some background.

    Off the top of my head, the problems I noticed included:
    - Activating right indicator lights up LHS mirror indicator, RHS mirror indicator remained dark. Had to cover LHS with black tape to prevent any more close calls at round-a-bouts,
    - Activating window lock at the master switch caused a child lock fault,
    - Master window control driver door window switch worked for drivers door, front passenger dead, rear left activated both rear windows simultaneously, rear right dead. Windows go down and back up,
    - Opening the driver window causes a "key not found" error to intermittently pop up (ranging from 1 second to 10 seconds). Opening the rear windows even a crack stopped this,
    - Driver door latch would intermittently pop up saying door open when it was closed (happened 2/3 short trips on and off, on and off),
    - Start/Stop function at lights would fail on start up and I would have to put the vehicle in P then restart the car and it would have an a range of electronic errors which would go away after turning the car off again,
    - No electronics were available on the front passenger door,
    - Front cabin lights flickered as if there was a loose neutral,
    - Activating auto-hold function popped up with an error,
    - Reverse camera intermittently decided to not pop up on the screen,
    - Reversing with the mirror switch set to L no longer dips upon entering R.

    I had the vehicle diagnosed by VW and they concluded that I would need a new door control module to fix various issues.

    Due to having trust issues with dealerships from past experiences, I ordered the genuine part through the dealership and installed it myself.

    All errors and alarms have gone away. But I'm missing a few functionalities/mix ups as follows:
    - Opening the driver door shows up on the dash that the front passenger door is open.
    - Opening the front passenger door shows that the driver door is open.
    - The driver door master window switch for the passenger window opens the driver door window and the other three window switches are inactive. But the both switches on the rear doors operate correctly.
    - No mirror indicators function,
    - Mirror reverse dip doesn't work,
    - Mirror heaters don't seem to be working (I tried to check using the consumption monitor on the head unit).

    My question now is what should my next step be. Is there a way to swap the driver side configuration and play around with the window/mirror functions? I have ordered an OBD2 cable online and have been conflicted on which bluetooth dongle to buy or even if that will help as the you-beaut ross-tech wireless is $500 odd/USB cable 3 VIN licence is $199, the OBD11 is $150 odd seems to be more for the fun stuff but then there are the cheaper $30 options or even the $70 Jaycar OBD2 dongle.

    Thanks in advance for your time.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Mmmm1987 View Post
    Hi everybody!

    I have a problem with the electronics inside my 2016 Golf Alltrack. I shall provide some background.

    Off the top of my head, the problems I noticed included:
    - Activating right indicator lights up LHS mirror indicator, RHS mirror indicator remained dark. Had to cover LHS with black tape to prevent any more close calls at round-a-bouts,
    - Activating window lock at the master switch caused a child lock fault,
    - Master window control driver door window switch worked for drivers door, front passenger dead, rear left activated both rear windows simultaneously, rear right dead. Windows go down and back up,
    - Opening the driver window causes a "key not found" error to intermittently pop up (ranging from 1 second to 10 seconds). Opening the rear windows even a crack stopped this,
    - Driver door latch would intermittently pop up saying door open when it was closed (happened 2/3 short trips on and off, on and off),
    - Start/Stop function at lights would fail on start up and I would have to put the vehicle in P then restart the car and it would have an a range of electronic errors which would go away after turning the car off again,
    - No electronics were available on the front passenger door,
    - Front cabin lights flickered as if there was a loose neutral,
    - Activating auto-hold function popped up with an error,
    - Reverse camera intermittently decided to not pop up on the screen,
    - Reversing with the mirror switch set to L no longer dips upon entering R.

    I had the vehicle diagnosed by VW and they concluded that I would need a new door control module to fix various issues.

    Due to having trust issues with dealerships from past experiences, I ordered the genuine part through the dealership and installed it myself.

    All errors and alarms have gone away. But I'm missing a few functionalities/mix ups as follows:
    - Opening the driver door shows up on the dash that the front passenger door is open.
    - Opening the front passenger door shows that the driver door is open.
    - The driver door master window switch for the passenger window opens the driver door window and the other three window switches are inactive. But the both switches on the rear doors operate correctly.
    - No mirror indicators function,
    - Mirror reverse dip doesn't work,
    - Mirror heaters don't seem to be working (I tried to check using the consumption monitor on the head unit).

    My question now is what should my next step be. Is there a way to swap the driver side configuration and play around with the window/mirror functions? I have ordered an OBD2 cable online and have been conflicted on which bluetooth dongle to buy or even if that will help as the you-beaut ross-tech wireless is $500 odd/USB cable 3 VIN licence is $199, the OBD11 is $150 odd seems to be more for the fun stuff but then there are the cheaper $30 options or even the $70 Jaycar OBD2 dongle.

    Thanks in advance for your time.
    I wonder maybe if module is for a LHD car if left door is drivers. An OBD ELEVEN is the next best after VCDS and FAR FAR better than the others you mention and it is NOT just for fun things and the $30 and $70 are about as useful as t+++on a bull in comparison
    2021 Kamiq LE 110 , Moon White, BV cameras F & B
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Hillbilly View Post
      I wonder maybe if module is for a LHD car if left door is drivers. An OBD ELEVEN is the next best after VCDS and FAR FAR better than the others you mention and it is NOT just for fun things and the $30 and $70 are about as useful as t+++on a bull in comparison
      A possibility but I hope it is not the left. I specifically asked for a genuine driver door module at dealership #2 and they had it in stock by 8am the next day in Sydney (the other VW dealership said it was a 6 week wait for that part). It is manufactured in Romania though.

      Thanks for that. I guess that I'll be ordering from Ross-Tech. Found out that the driver side module is a J386 control unit so in the meantime I shall flick through the J386 wiring diagrams and see what goes where in there.

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      • #4
        @Mmmm1987: Hmm........ intriguing problems - do you have access to a diagnostic device (like VCDS, or OBDeleven)? If so, a scan would be very, very useful!!

        Apropose of your concern regarding incorrect door modules, I invite that you consider the following 2 x fundamental points:
        1. ALL MQB platform vehicles have a graphic on the housings of their door modules that indicate their designed positions on the car.
        2. The other important "variable" about door modules is what side of the vehicle the steering wheel is installed because this determines what dataset is used in the module's firmware.
          Even if the modules are installed on the correct car-side, using RH-drive door modules on LH-drive cars does cause problems with UP/DOWN/LEFT/RIGHT mirror switch adjustments. From your description, I don't think this is your problem - but it's something to bear in mind.


        Here's a picture showing the nomenclature that VAG uses on their door modules (and my comments):

        The module shown is for the passenger side - notice that the left-side square is colored white for our RH-drive cars (see RL -second set of boxes which I've enclosed by the yellow highlights on my picture). Incidentally, I suspect the boxes marked ??? are used for what VAG call "special vehicles" - I wasn't sure of this when I made the picture.

        Of course the equivalent driver side module will have the opposite (right-side) box colored white on our cars (i.e. on the RL boxes)

        So - if you have the inclination, I suggest that you actually eyeball how the boxes are colored on the door modules on your car to confirm the correct modules are fitted.

        In my experience, it's highly unlikely that the wrong modules are fitted - but yours is a most peculiar problem IMO. If you haven't had the car from new - maybe the original owner made some "innovative" fitments?

        Don
        Last edited by DV52; 02-05-2021, 10:44 AM.
        Please don't PM to ask questions about coding, or vehicle repairs. The better place to deal with these matters is in the forum proper. That way you get the benefit of the wider expertise of other forum members! Thank you.

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        • #5
          One step forward, two steps back.

          So it turns out that the simple oversight of not checking those coloured configuration squares was an issue so thank you guys for that! Mind you, this was after I sat down and checked every core inside each multiple pin plug the previous day.

          The dealership ended up being quite reasonable and doing a reorder and swap after I corrected them on the part and they realised they had provided the incorrect part.

          After installing the correct module to the driver door, I now have the following issues:

          - Passenger door open lights up the driver door open on the dash.
          - Opening the driver door causes a "Key not found" alert and I haven't been able to see which door is displayed as open yet.
          - The passenger window switch doesn't do anything.
          - Indicating right lights up the left mirror indicator but definitely lights up the right indicator everywhere else including the dash.
          - The mirror adjustment toggle set to Left controls the driver side mirror in a 'mirrored' X and Y configuration.
          - The mirror adjustment set to the Right doesn't seem to work.
          - At the master window control switch, the front passenger switch controls the driver side, driver side does nothing, the rear left controls both windows again and the rear right switch doesn't do anything.

          But! Now the mirror heaters work (confirmed by touch and in the screen consumption monitoring) and the rear windows work correctly. The auto start/stop did fail on me last night too.

          I'm still waiting for my cable (due 8am of Monday morning just past) to arrive so no scan yet.

          My conclusions so far are that the car has hopefully had that "Right-Hand-Drive (RHD) model" box unchecked when I took it in for diagnosing (I saw a screen dump of a vcds screen 5Q0-959-593 E in a folding mirrors thread). And that the master window switch is cooked or has some settings a bit out.

          There is also black electrical tape on both cables from each 32 pin plug coming from inside the door through the grommet which is why I checked the wiring diagrams but maybe they just reterminated it.

          I've ordered a new master window switch to see if that makes a difference.

          Thanks for the help, I'll provide an update as to what happens next.
          Last edited by Mmmm1987; 05-05-2021, 03:02 PM. Reason: Forgot a word

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          • #6
            when i retrofitted folding mirrors on my golf i also had to get a highline controller for the drivers door (passenger door had highline but not drivers.. weird). i took a copy of the setting prior to swapping out. i had the issue of when folding, they would be out of sync. one would fold and the other would open and vice versa... worked out it was a setting in the coding of the controller for rhd/lhd...
            2018 MY18 Indium Grey VW Golf 110TSI Comfortline, DAP & Infotainment, Folding Mirrors!
            2023 MY23 Nevada White Cupra Formentor VZx
            2015 Carnival Yellow Honda S660

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            • #7
              I finally got an OBDeleven (still waiting for the first cable to arrive).

              Here are some dumps:

              GATEWAY

              Car: Volkswagen Golf Alltrack
              Year: 2016
              Body type: Variant
              Engine: CJSB 132 kW (180 HP) 1.8 l
              Mileage: 131578 KM

              ---------------------------------------------------------------
              19 Gateway

              System description: GW MQB High
              Software number: 5Q0907530AF
              Software version: 2223
              Hardware number: 5Q0907530M
              Hardware version: 212
              Serial number: 23071510802447
              ODX name: EV_GatewConti
              ODX version: 013020
              Long coding: 030100343F085900FB00224A1E0F0001000105000000000000 0000000000

              Trouble codes:
              U020000 - Lost Communication With “Door Control Module B”
              static
              Date: 2021-05-25 15:30:11
              Mileage: 131505 km
              Priority: 2
              Malfunction frequency counter: 9
              Unlearning counter: 208
              Supply voltage, terminal 30: 14.0 V
              Terminal 15: On

              DRIVER DOOR

              Car: Volkswagen Golf Alltrack
              Year: 2016
              Body type: Variant
              Engine: CJSB 132 kW (180 HP) 1.8 l
              Mileage: 131578 KM

              ---------------------------------------------------------------
              42 Driver Door

              Hardware version: 010

              Trouble codes:
              No trouble codes found

              CENTRAL ELECTRICS

              Car: Volkswagen Golf Alltrack
              Year: 2016
              Body type: Variant
              Engine: CJSB 132 kW (180 HP) 1.8 l
              Mileage: 131578 KM

              ---------------------------------------------------------------
              09 Central Electrics

              System description: BCM PQ37BOSCH
              Software number: 5Q0937086AK
              Software version: 0162
              Hardware number: 5Q0937086AK
              Hardware version: 028
              Serial number: 86582507150065
              ODX name: EV_BodyContrModul1UDSBosc
              ODX version: 015002
              Long coding: 03511A46C24122FB4BE44000000C0728180000000000000000 0000000000

              Trouble codes:
              U112100 - Databus missing message
              static
              Date: 2021-05-25 15:30:09
              Mileage: 131505 km
              Priority: 6
              Malfunction frequency counter: 1
              Unlearning counter: 207
              Terminal 15 status: On
              Terminal 50 status: Off
              Voltage: 13.9 V
              Outside air temperature: 24.5 °C
              Status Bremslichtschalter (HW): Off
              Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN): Off
              Off: operated
              Parking light: not activated
              Automatic high beam assist: not activated
              Low beam: not activated
              Parking light left: not activated
              Parking light right: not activated
              Letzte Weckursache/ Werte [00;2E]: Pin C14 Kessy Weckleitung
              CAN-Bus_aktiv: On
              U112100 - Databus missing message
              static
              Date: 2021-05-25 15:30:09
              Mileage: 131505 km
              Priority: 6
              Malfunction frequency counter: 1
              Unlearning counter: 207
              Terminal 15 status: On
              Terminal 50 status: Off
              Voltage: 13.8 V
              Outside air temperature: 24.5 °C
              Status Bremslichtschalter (HW): Off
              Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN): Off
              Off: operated
              Parking light: not activated
              Automatic high beam assist: not activated
              Low beam: not activated
              Parking light left: not activated
              Parking light right: not activated
              Letzte Weckursache/ Werte [00;2E]: Pin C14 Kessy Weckleitung
              CAN-Bus_aktiv: On
              B147918 - Remote key 1 Voltage too low
              static
              Date: 2021-05-25 16:34:37
              Mileage: 131559 km
              Priority: 4
              Malfunction frequency counter: 1
              Unlearning counter: 207
              Terminal 15 status: Off
              Terminal 50 status: Off
              Voltage: 12.6 V
              Outside air temperature: 20.5 °C
              Status Bremslichtschalter (HW): Off
              Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN): Off
              Off: operated
              Parking light: not activated
              Automatic high beam assist: not activated
              Low beam: not activated
              Parking light left: not activated
              Parking light right: not activated
              Letzte Weckursache/ Werte [00;2E]: keine Störschutzursache
              CAN-Bus_aktiv: On
              B147A18 - Remote key 2 Voltage too low
              static
              Date: 2021-05-25 20:37:57
              Mileage: 131572 km
              Priority: 4
              Malfunction frequency counter: 1
              Unlearning counter: 207
              Terminal 15 status: Off
              Terminal 50 status: Off
              Voltage: 12.5 V
              Outside air temperature: 19.0 °C
              Status Bremslichtschalter (HW): Off
              Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN): Off
              Off: not activated
              Parking light: not activated
              Automatic high beam assist: operated
              Low beam: not activated
              Parking light left: not activated
              Parking light right: not activated
              Letzte Weckursache/ Werte [00;2E]: keine Störschutzursache
              CAN-Bus_aktiv: On

              ENGINE

              Car: Volkswagen Golf Alltrack
              Year: 2016
              Body type: Variant
              Engine: CJSB 132 kW (180 HP) 1.8 l
              Mileage: 131578 KM

              ---------------------------------------------------------------
              01 Engine

              System description: 1.8l R4 TFSI
              Software number: 8V0906264H
              Software version: 0003
              Hardware number: 06K907425B
              Hardware version: H13
              ODX name: EV_ECM18TFS0208V0906264H
              ODX version: 001005
              Long coding: 319D00122426050B3000

              Trouble codes:
              U049A00 - Invalid Data Received From “Door Control Module A”
              static
              Date: 2021-05-25 15:30:11
              Mileage: 131505 km
              Priority: 2
              Malfunction frequency counter: 118
              Unlearning counter: 255
              Engine speed: 880.50 1/min
              Normed load value: 22.0 %
              Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
              Coolant temperature: 86 °C
              Intake air temperature: 67 °C
              Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
              Voltage terminal 30: 12.148 V
              Dynamic environmental data: 209628110E0216E002202F0DFD11A8000511AB002143832001 16E002

              So far, I have changed out the driver door control module, the driver door master windows switch set, the start stop ignition button and the driver door lock assembly.

              Any help would be fantastic as I haven't been able to find much with the Trouble codes.

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              • #8
                hmmm........a partial scan report!!

                I understand the reasoning why folk remove large chunks of their scan reports before posting on these forums. However, for those of us attempting remote diagnostics - partial scans really do limit fault analysis purely to whatever assumptions are in the mind of the individual who edited the scan.

                Sometimes these assumptions are correct - but other times they are not. I'm not sure which is the case in this instance, but my practice when seeking advice about a problem is NEVER to make any assumptions about which part of a scan report to include (and which to exclude) - because the potential cost of a truncated scan is not worth the advantage of a neat post.

                So, based purely on just the information provided, I provide the observations below:

                The DTC on the hex19 module and on the BCM suggests (to me) a comms issue on the CAN bus (the Convenience CAN - I suspect). Because the date of the scan report has been removed, I'm not sure how prevalent the comms issue is, but the frequency counter on the Gateway module confirms that the same error has re-appeared on 9 separate occasions since first registration (yesterday). So the comms error appears to be persistent!

                As for the cause - I'm not sure, but you mention in one of your posts seeing "black electrical tape" - this suggests that the wiring has been repaired. If so, this might be a good place to start - but connector pins are also worth investigating (particularly those pins related to power supply and CAN-high/CAN-low functions)


                The telling aspect (for me) for the DTC on the hex01 module is that it has the same date/time stamp as the errors above - so, this might be a consequential fault to the comms problem. However, "invalid data" could also be suggestive of a coding error (maybe?).

                Please post-up a copy of the long-code strings on both the Driver and Passenger door modules.

                Don
                Last edited by DV52; 26-05-2021, 05:15 PM.
                Please don't PM to ask questions about coding, or vehicle repairs. The better place to deal with these matters is in the forum proper. That way you get the benefit of the wider expertise of other forum members! Thank you.

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                • #9
                  A bigger picture makes much more sense. I didn't realise that there was an export button for the whole scan. Thank you for your patience.

                  I have not been able to delve into anything to do with the doors. When trying to open either controller I get a loading symbol in the centre of the screen then after about 30 seconds I am prompted with "Control unit not responding. Check ignition and try again." The driver door has a red 42 circle highlight at the top right and the passenger door has a 52 with a black highlight.

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                  Here is the full scan:

                  OBDeleven vehicle history log


                  Date: 2021-05-27 14:10


                  VIN: WVWZZZAUZ
                  Car: Volkswagen Golf Alltrack
                  Year: 2016
                  Body type: Variant
                  Engine: CJSB 132 kW (180 HP) 1.8 l
                  Mileage: 131683 KM


                  ---------------------------------------------------------------
                  Fault
                  Control unit: 01 Engine
                  Active faults: 0
                  Inactive faults: 1
                  System description: 1.8l R4 TFSI
                  Software number: 8V0906264H
                  Software version: 0003
                  Hardware number: 06K907425B
                  Hardware version: H13
                  ODX name: EV_ECM18TFS0208V0906264H
                  ODX version: 001005
                  Faults:
                  U049A00 - Invalid Data Received From “Door Control Module A”
                  static
                  Date: 2021-05-25 15:30:11
                  Mileage: 131505 km
                  Priority: 2
                  Malfunction frequency counter: 254
                  Unlearning counter: 255
                  Engine speed: 880.50 1/min
                  Normed load value: 22.0 %
                  Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                  Coolant temperature: 86 °C
                  Intake air temperature: 67 °C
                  Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                  Voltage terminal 30: 12.148 V
                  Dynamic environmental data: 209628110E0216E002202F0DFD11A8000511AB002143832001 16E002




                  Mileage: 131683 km
                  Date: 2021-05-27 12:00


                  ---------------------------------------------------------------
                  Fault
                  Control unit: 02 Transmission
                  Active faults: 0
                  Inactive faults: 1
                  System description: DQ250-6A MQB
                  Software number: 0D9300012F
                  Software version: 4909
                  Hardware number: 02E927770AQ
                  Hardware version: H53
                  Serial number: TFK01506240566
                  ODX name: EV_TCMDQ250021
                  ODX version: 001001
                  Faults:
                  P173400 - Starter release from the selector lever sensor system
                  Intermittent




                  Mileage: 131683 km
                  Date: 2021-05-27 12:00


                  ---------------------------------------------------------------
                  Fault
                  Control unit: 03 Brakes
                  Active faults: 0
                  Inactive faults: 0
                  System description: ESC
                  Software number: 3Q0907379AA
                  Software version: 0623
                  Hardware number: 3Q0907379F
                  Hardware version: H42
                  Serial number: 62085000004616
                  ODX name: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB
                  ODX version: 034036
                  Faults:
                  No trouble codes found


                  Mileage: 131683 km
                  Date: 2021-05-27 12:00


                  ---------------------------------------------------------------
                  Fault
                  Control unit: 08 Air Conditioning
                  Active faults: 0
                  Inactive faults: 3
                  System description: Climatronic
                  Software number: 5G0907044BD
                  Software version: 1001
                  Hardware number: 5G0907044BD
                  Hardware version: H03
                  ODX name: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X
                  ODX version: 004131
                  Faults:
                  B108B71 - Fresh air, recirculation, air flow flap motor Actuator jammed
                  Intermittent
                  Date: 2021-05-25 15:30:08
                  Mileage: 131505 km
                  Priority: 2
                  Malfunction frequency counter: 10
                  Unlearning counter: 251
                  Dynamic environmental data: 028683260931261300EA261E003F1C261F0021
                  B109B15 - Position Sensor for Fresh air, recirculation, air flow flap Open circuit/short circuit to B+
                  Intermittent
                  Date: 2021-05-27 09:53:47
                  Mileage: 131673 km
                  Priority: 2
                  Malfunction frequency counter: 1
                  Unlearning counter: 250
                  Dynamic environmental data: 02867A260923261300D9261E002200261F0021
                  U112100 - Databus missing message
                  static
                  Date: 2021-05-25 15:30:08
                  Mileage: 131505 km
                  Priority: 6
                  Malfunction frequency counter: 1
                  Unlearning counter: 207




                  Mileage: 131683 km
                  Date: 2021-05-27 12:00


                  ---------------------------------------------------------------
                  Fault
                  Control unit: 09 Central Electrics
                  Active faults: 0
                  Inactive faults: 4
                  System description: BCM PQ37BOSCH
                  Software number: 5Q0937086AK
                  Software version: 0162
                  Hardware number: 5Q0937086AK
                  Hardware version: 028
                  Serial number: 86582507150065
                  ODX name: EV_BodyContrModul1UDSBosc
                  ODX version: 015002
                  Faults:
                  U112100 - Databus missing message
                  static
                  Date: 2021-05-25 15:30:09
                  Mileage: 131505 km
                  Priority: 6
                  Malfunction frequency counter: 1
                  Unlearning counter: 207
                  Terminal 15 status: On
                  Terminal 50 status: Off
                  Voltage: 13.9 V
                  Outside air temperature: 24.5 °C
                  Status Bremslichtschalter (HW): Off
                  Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN): Off
                  Off: operated
                  Parking light: not activated
                  Automatic high beam assist: not activated
                  Low beam: not activated
                  Parking light left: not activated
                  Parking light right: not activated
                  Letzte Weckursache/ Werte [00;2E]: Pin C14 Kessy Weckleitung
                  CAN-Bus_aktiv: On
                  U112100 - Databus missing message
                  static
                  Date: 2021-05-25 15:30:09
                  Mileage: 131505 km
                  Priority: 6
                  Malfunction frequency counter: 1
                  Unlearning counter: 207
                  Terminal 15 status: On
                  Terminal 50 status: Off
                  Voltage: 13.8 V
                  Outside air temperature: 24.5 °C
                  Status Bremslichtschalter (HW): Off
                  Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN): Off
                  Off: operated
                  Parking light: not activated
                  Automatic high beam assist: not activated
                  Low beam: not activated
                  Parking light left: not activated
                  Parking light right: not activated
                  Letzte Weckursache/ Werte [00;2E]: Pin C14 Kessy Weckleitung
                  CAN-Bus_aktiv: On
                  B147918 - Remote key 1 Voltage too low
                  static
                  Date: 2021-05-25 16:34:37
                  Mileage: 131559 km
                  Priority: 4
                  Malfunction frequency counter: 1
                  Unlearning counter: 207
                  Terminal 15 status: Off
                  Terminal 50 status: Off
                  Voltage: 12.6 V
                  Outside air temperature: 20.5 °C
                  Status Bremslichtschalter (HW): Off
                  Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN): Off
                  Off: operated
                  Parking light: not activated
                  Automatic high beam assist: not activated
                  Low beam: not activated
                  Parking light left: not activated
                  Parking light right: not activated
                  Letzte Weckursache/ Werte [00;2E]: keine Störschutzursache
                  CAN-Bus_aktiv: On
                  B147A18 - Remote key 2 Voltage too low
                  static
                  Date: 2021-05-25 20:37:57
                  Mileage: 131572 km
                  Priority: 4
                  Malfunction frequency counter: 2
                  Unlearning counter: 210
                  Terminal 15 status: Off
                  Terminal 50 status: Off
                  Voltage: 12.5 V
                  Outside air temperature: 19.0 °C
                  Status Bremslichtschalter (HW): Off
                  Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN): Off
                  Off: not activated
                  Parking light: not activated
                  Automatic high beam assist: operated
                  Low beam: not activated
                  Parking light left: not activated
                  Parking light right: not activated
                  Letzte Weckursache/ Werte [00;2E]: keine Störschutzursache
                  CAN-Bus_aktiv: On




                  Mileage: 131683 km
                  Date: 2021-05-27 12:01

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                  • #10
                    ---------------------------------------------------------------
                    Fault
                    Control unit: 15 Airbag
                    Active faults: 0
                    Inactive faults: 0
                    System description: AirbagVW20
                    Software number: 5Q0959655D
                    Software version: 0388
                    Hardware number: 5Q0959655D
                    Hardware version: 015
                    Serial number: 003F6R0Z24BH
                    ODX name: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X
                    ODX version: 002130
                    Faults:
                    No trouble codes found


                    Mileage: 131683 km
                    Date: 2021-05-27 12:01


                    ---------------------------------------------------------------
                    Fault
                    Control unit: 16 Steering Column
                    Active faults: 0
                    Inactive faults: 0
                    System description: Lenks.Modul
                    Software number: 5Q0953521AT
                    Software version: 0175
                    Hardware number: 5Q0953569A
                    Hardware version: 075
                    Serial number: 20150731400131
                    ODX name: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB
                    ODX version: 001015
                    Faults:
                    No trouble codes found


                    Mileage: 131683 km
                    Date: 2021-05-27 12:01


                    ---------------------------------------------------------------
                    Fault
                    Control unit: 17 Dashboard
                    Active faults: 0
                    Inactive faults: 0
                    System description: KOMBI
                    Software number: 5G1920740A
                    Software version: 6420
                    Hardware number: 5G1920740A
                    Hardware version: 202
                    ODX name: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB
                    ODX version: 009046
                    Faults:
                    No trouble codes found


                    Mileage: 131683 km
                    Date: 2021-05-27 12:02


                    ---------------------------------------------------------------
                    Fault
                    Control unit: 19 Gateway
                    Active faults: 0
                    Inactive faults: 1
                    System description: GW MQB High
                    Software number: 5Q0907530AF
                    Software version: 2223
                    Hardware number: 5Q0907530M
                    Hardware version: 212
                    Serial number: 23071510802447
                    ODX name: EV_GatewConti
                    ODX version: 013020
                    Faults:
                    U020000 - Lost Communication With “Door Control Module B”
                    static
                    Date: 2021-05-25 15:30:11
                    Mileage: 131505 km
                    Priority: 2
                    Malfunction frequency counter: 15
                    Unlearning counter: 210
                    Supply voltage, terminal 30: 14.0 V
                    Terminal 15: On




                    Mileage: 131683 km
                    Date: 2021-05-27 12:02


                    ---------------------------------------------------------------
                    Fault
                    Control unit: 22 All Wheel Control
                    Active faults: 0
                    Inactive faults: 0
                    System description: Haldex4Motion
                    Software number: 0CQ907554D
                    Software version: 7082
                    Hardware number: 0CQ525130
                    Hardware version: H52
                    Serial number: HA1-00016.06.1500010475
                    ODX name: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X
                    ODX version: 002013
                    Faults:
                    No trouble codes found


                    Mileage: 131683 km
                    Date: 2021-05-27 12:02


                    ---------------------------------------------------------------
                    Fault
                    Control unit: 2B Steering Column Lock
                    Active faults: 0
                    Inactive faults: 0
                    System description: ELV-MQBA
                    Software number: 5Q0905861A
                    Software version: 0120
                    Hardware number: 5Q0905861A
                    Hardware version: H01
                    Serial number: 15000176701008
                    ODX name: EV_ELVMarquMQB
                    ODX version: 004111
                    Faults:
                    No trouble codes found


                    Mileage: 131683 km
                    Date: 2021-05-27 12:02


                    ---------------------------------------------------------------
                    Fault
                    Control unit: 42 Driver Door
                    Active faults: 0
                    Inactive faults: 0
                    Hardware version: 010
                    Faults:
                    No trouble codes found


                    Mileage: 131683 km
                    Date: 2021-05-27 12:02


                    ---------------------------------------------------------------
                    Fault
                    Control unit: 44 Steering Assistance
                    Active faults: 0
                    Inactive faults: 0
                    System description: EPS_MQB_ZFLS
                    Software number: 5Q0909144R
                    Software version: 1061
                    Hardware number: 5Q0909144R
                    Hardware version: 125
                    ODX name: EV_SteerAssisMQB
                    ODX version: 012140
                    Faults:
                    No trouble codes found


                    Mileage: 131683 km
                    Date: 2021-05-27 12:03


                    ---------------------------------------------------------------
                    Fault
                    Control unit: 55 Headlight Regulation
                    Active faults: 0
                    Inactive faults: 0
                    System description: AFS-ECU
                    Software number: 7P6907357D
                    Software version: 0090
                    Hardware number: 7P6907357A
                    Hardware version: H07
                    Serial number: --------------
                    ODX name: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSMQB
                    ODX version: 001120
                    Faults:
                    No trouble codes found


                    Mileage: 131683 km
                    Date: 2021-05-27 12:03


                    ---------------------------------------------------------------
                    Fault
                    Control unit: 5F Multimedia
                    Active faults: 0
                    Inactive faults: 0
                    System description: MU-S-N-ER
                    Software number: 3Q0035846
                    Software version: 0254
                    Hardware number: 3Q0035846
                    Hardware version: H24
                    Serial number: VWZAZ2R0361321
                    ODX name: EV_MUStd4CTSAT
                    ODX version: 001022
                    Faults:
                    No trouble codes found


                    Mileage: 131683 km
                    Date: 2021-05-27 12:03


                    ---------------------------------------------------------------
                    Fault
                    Control unit: 69 Trailer Control
                    Active faults: 0
                    Inactive faults: 0
                    System description: Anhaenger
                    Software number: 5Q0907383L
                    Software version: 0260
                    Hardware number: 5Q0907383L
                    Hardware version: H27
                    Serial number: 0537739198
                    ODX name: EV_TrailFunctGener2Hella
                    ODX version: 001008
                    Faults:
                    No trouble codes found


                    Mileage: 131683 km
                    Date: 2021-05-27 12:03


                    ---------------------------------------------------------------
                    Fault
                    Control unit: 76 Parking Assistance
                    Active faults: 0
                    Inactive faults: 0
                    System description: PARKHILFE 8K
                    Software number: 5Q0919294K
                    Software version: 0054
                    Hardware number: 5Q0919294A
                    Hardware version: H03
                    Serial number: 39331520602170
                    ODX name: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000
                    ODX version: 002026
                    Faults:
                    No trouble codes found


                    Mileage: 131683 km
                    Date: 2021-05-27 12:03


                    ---------------------------------------------------------------
                    Fault
                    Control unit: B7 Start System Interface
                    Active faults: 0
                    Inactive faults: 0
                    System description: VWKESSYMQB
                    Software number: 5Q0959435A
                    Software version: 0604
                    Hardware number: 5Q0959435
                    Hardware version: 021
                    Serial number: 0373415126
                    ODX name: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB
                    ODX version: 002011
                    Faults:
                    No trouble codes found


                    Mileage: 131683 km
                    Date: 2021-05-27 12:04

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Arrhhhh..... that's better - but some real strange stuff happening with your scan.

                      I assume that you have now posted the complete scan, but there is no passenger side door module in the report - it lives @ address hex52. So it should be listed between the Steering Assistance and Headlight Regulation modules - but it ain't there!!

                      Also, the driver control module is present in your scan but it has refused to report its equipment details - and it has told "porkies" by declaring "No trouble codes found"!

                      As context for these 2 x observations, I refer to this part of your post:

                      Originally posted by Mmmm1987 View Post
                      The driver door has a red 42 circle highlight at the top right and the passenger door has a 52 with a black highlight.
                      OBD11 has a colored circle for each module - the number in the center of the circle is the address of module on the CAN network and the dot can have the following colors:
                      • GREEN - The control module is communicating with the CAN Network with no trouble codes
                      • RED - The control module is communicating with the CAN Network but trouble codes are present
                      • YELLOW- The control module is attempting to communicate with the CAN Network but it has not been registered with the Gateway module installation list
                      • BLACK- The control module is registered in the Gateway module installation list - but it has failed to communicate in the challenge/response process


                      So - your observation about the passenger door module's black dot confirms that there is a comms problem - please refer to my previous suggestion regarding checking wiring/connectors (I assume that the fuse is OK because the module is working for local facilities)

                      ...........And there is clearly an untruth in the scan regarding the driver door module having no trouble codes (I tend to believe the colored dot). I suspect that the inability of the hex42 module to report its own equipment details has extended to it's inability to report the trouble codes that are registered within the module's memory.

                      Don
                      Please don't PM to ask questions about coding, or vehicle repairs. The better place to deal with these matters is in the forum proper. That way you get the benefit of the wider expertise of other forum members! Thank you.

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                      • #12
                        I have made progress! What I ended up trying was removing the passenger door module and reconnecting the battery which let me speak to the driver side module easily every time. Following this small success, I put the passenger module into the driver door with the passenger door still empty. I was able to then access it, back it up and change the Right hand drive check box. After putting each door module into the correct door, I had functioning windows at each door and the mirror indicators worked as they should. However, the door switch kept giving me an intermittent open door flashing/driver door switch error and the driver door window control only controlled the driver side windows front and rear.


                        I ended up ordering a new passenger door module to replace my current one like for like (5Q4 959 592 E). I plugged it in and had the control module number 52 pop up in red (previously black). I changed a few settings with the screen shots I had taken before with it in the driver side door and success. Did a scan, cleared the errors, scanned again and here we are:


                        Central Electrics 09 Green
                        Gateway 19 Green
                        Driver door 42 Red (B200500 - Data Record Invalid)
                        Passenger door 52 Green


                        I am at a total loss with how my original passenger module decided to be a LHS considering I have never been able to log into it. I wish I had started with an OBD11 scan before I took it for dealership diagnosis.


                        Any idea how to clear this final code so I can have all green (apart from the Headlight Regulation 55 Red, needing to replace a cornering globe I think)?


                        Thanks so much for your time!


                        OBDeleven data log


                        Date: 2021-06-20 16:46


                        VIN: WVWZZZAUZGP53
                        Car: Volkswagen Golf Alltrack
                        Year: 2016
                        Body type: Variant
                        Engine: CJSB 132 kW (180 HP) 1.8 l
                        Mileage: 132850 KM


                        ---------------------------------------------------------------
                        01 Engine


                        System description: 1.8l R4 TFSI
                        Software number: 8V0906264H
                        Software version: 0003
                        Hardware number: 06K907425B
                        Hardware version: H13
                        ODX name: EV_ECM18TFS0208V0906264H
                        ODX version: 001005
                        Long coding: 319D00122426050B3000


                        Trouble codes:
                        No trouble codes found


                        ---------------------------------------------------------------
                        02 Transmission


                        System description: DQ250-6A MQB
                        Software number: 0D9300012F
                        Software version: 4909
                        Hardware number: 02E927770AQ
                        Hardware version: H53
                        Serial number: TFK01506240566
                        ODX name: EV_TCMDQ250021
                        ODX version: 001001
                        Long coding: 0014


                        Trouble codes:
                        P173400 - Starter release from the selector lever sensor system
                        Intermittent




                        ---------------------------------------------------------------
                        03 Brakes


                        System description: ESC
                        Software number: 3Q0907379AA
                        Software version: 0623
                        Hardware number: 3Q0907379F
                        Hardware version: H42
                        Serial number: 62085000004616
                        ODX name: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB
                        ODX version: 034036
                        Long coding: 43FA8AA13423516C077E070741CA29C2512C8AE0E08294FD00 420038E209


                        Trouble codes:
                        No trouble codes found


                        ---------------------------------------------------------------
                        08 Air Conditioning


                        System description: Climatronic
                        Software number: 5G0907044BD
                        Software version: 1001
                        Hardware number: 5G0907044BD
                        Hardware version: H03
                        ODX name: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X
                        ODX version: 004131
                        Long coding: 02120024200100001005000012101402


                        Trouble codes:
                        No trouble codes found

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          ---------------------------------------------------------------
                          09 Central Electrics


                          System description: BCM PQ37BOSCH
                          Software number: 5Q0937086AK
                          Software version: 0162
                          Hardware number: 5Q0937086AK
                          Hardware version: 028
                          Serial number: 86582507150065
                          ODX name: EV_BodyContrModul1UDSBosc
                          ODX version: 015002
                          Long coding: 03511A46C24122FB4BE44000000C0728180000000000000000 0000000000


                          Subsystems:
                          System description: WWS 150713
                          Software version: 0551
                          Hardware version: 042
                          Serial number: 150717004415
                          Long coding: 0E4DDD


                          System description: RLHS
                          Software version: 0059
                          Hardware version: 037
                          Serial number: S5Y15M07D28H14M54S15
                          Long coding: 90A8DD


                          System description: J245 PS22.409
                          Software version: 0004
                          Hardware version: H03
                          Serial number: 0000FST000EO8Q000000
                          Long coding: 191800


                          System description: J394 PS22.409
                          Software version: 0004
                          Hardware version: H03
                          Serial number: 0000FST000EO89J00000
                          Long coding: 191800


                          Trouble codes:
                          No trouble codes found


                          ---------------------------------------------------------------
                          15 Airbag


                          System description: AirbagVW20
                          Software number: 5Q0959655D
                          Software version: 0388
                          Hardware number: 5Q0959655D
                          Hardware version: 015
                          Serial number: 003F6R0Z24BH
                          ODX name: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X
                          ODX version: 002130
                          Long coding: 98CCC000000000005C00000000C800000065


                          Subsystems:
                          System description: SideSensor_Df
                          Software version: 0887
                          Hardware version: 001
                          Serial number: 357670000009C1D4D510
                          Long coding: 2D2D2D


                          System description: SideSensor_Pf
                          Software version: 0887
                          Hardware version: 001
                          Serial number: 35867000000C5DE4D51A
                          Long coding: 2D2D2D


                          System description: SideSensor_Dr
                          Software version: 6149
                          Hardware version: 001
                          Serial number: 3516502B51C52F25F1FP
                          Long coding: 2D2D2D


                          System description: SideSensor_Pr
                          Software version: 6149
                          Hardware version: 001
                          Serial number: 3526502A91B7E8E0B20O
                          Long coding: 2D2D2D


                          System description: FrontSensor_D
                          Software version: 6149
                          Hardware version: 001
                          Serial number: 3556502C31B5A875B23I
                          Long coding: 2D2D2D


                          Trouble codes:
                          No trouble codes found


                          ---------------------------------------------------------------
                          16 Steering Column


                          System description: Lenks.Modul
                          Software number: 5Q0953521AT
                          Software version: 0175
                          Hardware number: 5Q0953569A
                          Hardware version: 075
                          Serial number: 20150731400131
                          ODX name: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB
                          ODX version: 001015
                          Long coding: 0410


                          Trouble codes:
                          No trouble codes found


                          ---------------------------------------------------------------
                          17 Dashboard


                          System description: KOMBI
                          Software number: 5G1920740A
                          Software version: 6420
                          Hardware number: 5G1920740A
                          Hardware version: 202
                          ODX name: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB
                          ODX version: 009046
                          Long coding: 27A4101B2B80000801086A001400000000000000


                          Trouble codes:
                          No trouble codes found







                          Comment


                          • #14
                            19 Gateway


                            System description: GW MQB High
                            Software number: 5Q0907530AF
                            Software version: 2223
                            Hardware number: 5Q0907530M
                            Hardware version: 212
                            Serial number: 23071510802447
                            ODX name: EV_GatewConti
                            ODX version: 013020
                            Long coding: 030100343F085900FB00224A1E0F0001000105000000000000 0000000000


                            Subsystems:
                            System description: J367-BDMHella
                            Software version: 8050
                            Hardware version: H04
                            Serial number: 2038637203


                            System description: E221__MFL-DC1
                            Software version: 0038
                            Hardware version: H16
                            Serial number: 29150001471550095292
                            Long coding: 29FFFF


                            Trouble codes:
                            No trouble codes found


                            ---------------------------------------------------------------
                            22 All Wheel Control


                            System description: Haldex4Motion
                            Software number: 0CQ907554D
                            Software version: 7082
                            Hardware number: 0CQ525130
                            Hardware version: H52
                            Serial number: HA1-00016.06.1500010475
                            ODX name: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X
                            ODX version: 002013
                            Long coding: 0001


                            Trouble codes:
                            No trouble codes found


                            ---------------------------------------------------------------
                            2B Steering Column Lock


                            System description: ELV-MQBA
                            Software number: 5Q0905861A
                            Software version: 0120
                            Hardware number: 5Q0905861A
                            Hardware version: H01
                            Serial number: 15000176701008
                            ODX name: EV_ELVMarquMQB
                            ODX version: 004111
                            Long coding: 5D00000000000000


                            Trouble codes:
                            No trouble codes found


                            ---------------------------------------------------------------
                            42 Driver Door


                            System description: TSG FS
                            Software number: 5Q4959593E
                            Software version: 0032
                            Hardware number: 5Q4959593B
                            Hardware version: 011
                            Serial number: 0000424664736
                            ODX name: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT
                            ODX version: 006001
                            Long coding: 003A13208001040000001000


                            Subsystems:
                            System description: Fond FHSG DRV
                            Software version: 0002
                            Hardware version: 007
                            Serial number: 00000000000009852347
                            Long coding: 0D0000


                            Trouble codes:
                            B200500 - Data record invalid
                            static
                            Date: 2021-06-20 00:50:47
                            Mileage: 132850 km
                            Priority: 2
                            Malfunction frequency counter: 1
                            Unlearning counter: 251




                            ---------------------------------------------------------------
                            44 Steering Assistance


                            System description: EPS_MQB_ZFLS
                            Software number: 5Q0909144R
                            Software version: 1061
                            Hardware number: 5Q0909144R
                            Hardware version: 125
                            ODX name: EV_SteerAssisMQB
                            ODX version: 012140
                            Long coding: 8103


                            Trouble codes:
                            No trouble codes found

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              52 Passenger Door


                              System description: TSG BFS
                              Software number: 5Q4959592E
                              Software version: 0032
                              Hardware number: 5Q4959592B
                              Hardware version: 011
                              Serial number: 0000278888706
                              ODX name: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT
                              ODX version: 006001
                              Long coding: 001B0120CC01048000001100


                              Subsystems:
                              System description: Fond FHSG PSG
                              Software version: 0002
                              Hardware version: 007
                              Serial number: 00000000000009780364
                              Long coding: 050000


                              Trouble codes:
                              No trouble codes found


                              ---------------------------------------------------------------
                              55 Headlight Regulation


                              System description: AFS-ECU
                              Software number: 7P6907357D
                              Software version: 0090
                              Hardware number: 7P6907357A
                              Hardware version: H07
                              Serial number: --------------
                              ODX name: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSMQB
                              ODX version: 001120
                              Long coding: 06AE00000B000200


                              Subsystems:
                              System description: LeiMo links
                              Software version: 0002
                              Hardware version: H01
                              Long coding: 2E0000


                              System description: LeiMo rechts
                              Software version: 0002
                              Hardware version: H01
                              Long coding: 2E0000


                              Trouble codes:
                              C107E54 - Headlight No basic setting
                              static
                              Date: 2021-06-20 00:50:58
                              Mileage: 132850 km
                              Priority: 1
                              Malfunction frequency counter: 1
                              Unlearning counter: 251




                              ---------------------------------------------------------------
                              5F Multimedia


                              System description: MU-S-N-ER
                              Software number: 3Q0035846
                              Software version: 0254
                              Hardware number: 3Q0035846
                              Hardware version: H24
                              Serial number: VWZAZ2R0361321
                              ODX name: EV_MUStd4CTSAT
                              ODX version: 001022
                              Long coding: 02730208FF00000051510001000828001F0100D601200102C7


                              Subsystems:
                              System description: ABT_Std-2_Nav
                              Software version: 4064
                              Hardware version: H43
                              Serial number: VWZ6Z9R1961528


                              System description: MRM3 2020/21
                              Software version: 1420
                              Hardware version: ---
                              Serial number: --------------------


                              Trouble codes:
                              No trouble codes found


                              ---------------------------------------------------------------
                              69 Trailer Control


                              System description: Anhaenger
                              Software number: 5Q0907383L
                              Software version: 0260
                              Hardware number: 5Q0907383L
                              Hardware version: H27
                              Serial number: 0537739198
                              ODX name: EV_TrailFunctGener2Hella
                              ODX version: 001008
                              Long coding: 0100000202000000


                              Trouble codes:
                              No trouble codes found


                              ---------------------------------------------------------------
                              76 Parking Assistance


                              System description: PARKHILFE 8K
                              Software number: 5Q0919294K
                              Software version: 0054
                              Hardware number: 5Q0919294A
                              Hardware version: H03
                              Serial number: 39331520602170
                              ODX name: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000
                              ODX version: 002026
                              Long coding: 0031151011


                              Trouble codes:
                              No trouble codes found


                              ---------------------------------------------------------------
                              B7 Start System Interface


                              System description: VWKESSYMQB
                              Software number: 5Q0959435A
                              Software version: 0604
                              Hardware number: 5Q0959435
                              Hardware version: 021
                              Serial number: 0373415126
                              ODX name: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB
                              ODX version: 002011
                              Long coding: 030C0C


                              Trouble codes:
                              No trouble codes found



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