Post speed sign in active display GTi 7.5

[limiteded]

Ive added this tweek to the Alltrack yesterday as per the instructions and have the same isdues as per this thread with the restricted message, even when driving past a sign that it then picks up.
I would suggest that there is still an adaption or bit to enable /change somewhere in one of these modules.

i did read elsewhere that the navigation data for Australia with traffic sign info does not work with traffic sign recognition, that is the fusion setting, which will operate much more consistently.

not sure if im going to keep this tweek active, will continue to have play around

[DonDubber]

Following the path of the learned folks above, and using the same OBDeleven process, I've just had a go at enabling TSR on a Golf Alltrack TSI premium, March 18 build.

Same result as limiteded above, with the occasional 'restricted' message. No warning/fault symbols on the dash or main screens at all, but when I check further for any faults using OBDeleven, I see the following which seems to correspond with the occurrence of the 'restricted' message:
Control Unit 13 Active Cruise Control - 'Databus missing message - code U112100 intermittent'.

As noted by limiteded above, seems to point to some additional coding change/s being required to prevent this glitch.

Would be most interested to hear from anyone who may have now figured out a way to overcome this.

[nibose]

Hi,

So which is the final version of the coding that works? I noticed some members got some error messages, does this mean that the adaptive lane guidance / ACC / lane assist will have issues? Will this coding work with VW Golf 7.5? Am based out of Perth, WA, wondering if someone can guide me. I've got my own VCDS cable.

Has someone also tried High Beam Assist?

Cheers & have a great weekend everyone!

[nibose]

Hi Everyone!

Hope everyone is having a relaxing Sunday.

I've just coded for traffic sign recognition and it works like a beauty. No error messages, except for the "limited" warning message which is because the system cant read any signs but to rely on the GPS. What caused the dismay was that it only seems to detect the speed signs while I was expecting the system to identify all the signs. Is this the case for others?

[Guest001]

The limited ........sign is because the units in Aus cars dont have FUSION mode which allows cameras to use data built into the maps.

It can be enabled in a different module but wont work as all that is required is not present.

However it does use some data from maps as mine shows a speed sign where there isnt one but used to be so there must be historic data in the maps somewhere

You can set overspeed to various levels and all it does it put a big sign on the AID and sound a chime. I have mine set so high I never get it.

When you exceed the speed sign limit you will notice a little exclamation mark added to the left side of the icon

[DonDubber]

Mine has been working OK now for 6 months, in same manner as Nibose above describes. Still regularly shows the 'limited' error message on the AID screen, but no other permanent error messages logged/saved.

[nibose]

What if we set it to "fusion" mode instead of traffic sign detection? I'm trying to get the system work using both maps and camera. How can we also integrate ALG with Dynamic sign assist so that it can automatically slow down, say, at school signs and then resume to the set speed after this zone?

[Guest001]

What if we set it to "fusion" mode instead of traffic sign detection? I'm trying to get the system work using both maps and camera. How can we also integrate ALG with Dynamic sign assist so that it can automatically slow down, say, at school signs and then resume to the set speed after this zone?

From what I can make out from the OBD11 experts, you cant because our units do NOT have the software to do that. Requires a different manufacturers unit.
That unit will recognise other signs as well like information signs etc which apparently are not integrated in Aussie maps


ATM it uses what it sees and historic data from the maps as witnessed on my car when it shows old speed zones in which the signs are gone but the data remains in the maps because they are somewhat out of date.

If you change it back to fusion I dont think it will work but am going to try it later today

[nibose]

Hi HillBilly,

Have not not tried to update the maps? I've downloaded the update file and will attempt to update today evening.

How about the ALG reducing and normalising the speeds based on special signs such as school zones? Has this worked for you?

One more point to note is that resetting the Discovery Pro unit may not suffice but an entire ignition recycle.

[Guest001]

Hi HillBilly,



How about the ALG reducing and normalising the speeds based on special signs such as school zones? Has this worked for you?

One more point to note is that resetting the Discovery Pro unit may not suffice but an entire ignition recycle.

What part of my prev posts do you not understand

ALG??????Assisted lane guidance???????

The unit cannot "see" any signs other than speed signs. So no it doesnt and cant work afaik.

We have Continental units and only Bosch units have the required software according to the European Gurus

All you have to do is hold down the off button till it comes on again

I have done at least 12 different codings and they all work

Updating maps wont make any difference I have the latest and it doesnt as the Aus maps do NOT have the required information in them it seems and the units do not have the ability to read other signs.

I dont fully understand the logic but there is over 2000 settings in the vehicle and some in different modules have the same name but are not set the same as what they are in the other module.

I would be very careful trying too much without a back up of the original settings of each module you change the coding in.

I have asked similar questions to you and the above is the answers I have got from them

[Guest001]

I answer to myself and others I have just changed the settings in Module A5 to Fusion Mode and IT DOESNT WORK. NO SPEED SIGNS WHATEVER

Put it back to roadsign recognition and they show up.

[nibose]

wow.. you seem angry... We're simply brainstorming for a better result.

I have done some research and realise that TSR is mostly meant for speed signs (weather conditions based included) and "no overtaking" signs. Whether it can detect other signs is still in a grey area.

The message we're getting simply means our maps are not adequate for TSR. More details can be found here: Volkswagen Golf Owners Manual - Displays - Traffic sign recognition

So I guess our coding is correct and the system is indeed behaving the way it should!

[Guest001]

wow.. you seem angry... We're simply brainstorming for a better result.

I have done some research and realise that TSR is mostly meant for speed signs (weather conditions based included) and "no overtaking" signs. Whether it can detect other signs is still in a grey area.



The message we're getting simply means our maps are not adequate for TSR. More details can be found here: Volkswagen Golf Owners Manual - Displays - Traffic sign recognition

So I guess our coding is correct and the system is indeed behaving the way it should!

Not angry but I posted why it wouldnt work and You seem to doubt it and ask have I updated the maps, which wont make any difference

None of the pics in your link come up in my car or any others as far as I know..

Remembering ALWAYS that VW manuals are generic worldwide and what is in them doesnt mean it will be in ours

They are in mine as well but dont appear

ONLY SPEED signs are read here AFAIK. No grey areas It either can or it cant and it cant

System is working as well as it can due to map and software limitations.

IF you want more buy Superb or something like that as it seems they have different units that MIGHT work but are probably the Bosch models

[DV52]

The following extract comes from newty (a moderator on the OBD11 forum)- I thought that it might be interesting given the discussion here

"There are 3 operation modes for TSR:
Electric Horizon - only use navigation data
Sign recognition - only use camera data (TSR only detects round signs, no city sings, also does not credit turns - so it keeps old limits for a long time until something new is seen)
Fusion - some algorithms decide what traffic sign is plausible and display that. This is factory default."

[Guest001]

The following extract comes from newty (a moderator on the OBD11 forum)- I thought that it might be interesting given the discussion here

"There are 3 operation modes for TSR:
Electric Horizon - only use navigation data
Sign recognition - only use camera data (TSR only detects round signs, no city sings, also does not credit turns - so it keeps old limits for a long time until something new is seen)
Fusion - some algorithms decide what traffic sign is plausible and display that. This is factory default."

Yes the second one works as per Phonebooths instructions

I tried the third today and it doesnt,as thats what it gets changed from to make it work, havent tried the first as happy with what we have.

Do you know the security code for ACC Control unit 13 please