Golf GTI Edition 35

[DoggieHowser]

My wife likes 3 doors. But everytime we have to give someone a ride, she's always relegated to the tiny backseat on account that she's petite. I think she's sworn off 3 doors at the moment. Shame really. We don't have kids and practicality isn't an issue.

[Corey_R]

Lol... I'm having a chuckle at the reasons... lazy, old, can't be f'd, and thinking that there is any difference in seat space and wheel base between 3 door and 5 door models... lol

[SilvrFoxX]

Now officially bored with this

[Corey_R]

Then don't post SilvrFoxX. No one is making you contribute...

[Candyman]

Now officially bored with this

The wife has a fetish for door handles, the more the better

Isn't that always the case

Those lacking usually fight the hardest SF

[SilvrFoxX]

No..Corey_R it is not the posting that is the issue it is the complete dismissal of a rational view.. taken out of context.. but that is the last I will say on the matter.. will leave the final comment to you

[Corey_R]

Well, I don't believe at all that I've dismissed a rational view. In each of my posts I've said that consumers should have the choice. I feel that you (specifically) have dismissed my rational view several times. But hey, each to their own.... or not, as VGA are denying some people that choice - which is what started this entire line of topic

[JPanDAX]

I believe all you need to be a "hot hatch" is:

1 - a hatch with 2 or 4 doors

And

2 - a performance motor

Thus the 2 and 4 door GTI and r are both hot hatches IMO and in the opinion of most biased and unbiased motoring enthusiasts

Full stop!


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[Cookie28]

I believe all you need to be a "hot hatch" is:

1 - a hatch with 2 or 4 doors

And

2 - a performance motor

Thus the 2 and 4 door GTI and r are both hot hatches IMO and in the opinion of most biased and unbiased motoring enthusiasts

Full stop!


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I agree and I can have an unbiased view having a sedan

[triode12]

I agree with Corey, if we are to take the Mk1 Golf GTI (sporting Golf) as the "father" of the hot hatch phenomenon. Then hot hatches have traditionally been 3Dr and other manufacturers have followed suit with their own 3Dr hot hatches. The Pug 205, Renault 5 turbo, Ford XR3.

Even sporting models of local cars have always been 2Dr. e.g. Charger, Holden Monaro, Ford XC Falcon Cobra.

History is on the side of Corey's argument.

[JPanDAX]

I don't see a 2door FPV or a HSV in the main stream. The monaro HQ etc and similar of the past ..... That may be history but perhaps times have changed. Were also running unleaded cars today too.... then again you can get a Hyundai excel in a 2 door... Is that a hot hatch too......


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[Capercat]

VW have been compromising the GTI variant for the good part of ten years. Let's not forget the infamous MK4 GTI, although they managed to claim back credibility with the MK5 (DSG was their trump card).

The bean counters tend to make the business decisions, I know of loyal VW customers switched to more focused hot hatches me included as they felt the compromise tipped the scales. The Golf GTI is a brilliant performance all rounder, but just short of being a hot hatch IMO, just wish they were 100kg lighter.

[triode12]

I don't see a 2door FPV or a HSV in the main stream. The monaro HQ etc and similar of the past ..... That may be history but perhaps times have changed. Were also running unleaded cars today too....

And they are also termed racing taxis with good reason.

then again you can get a Hyundai excel in a 2 door... Is that a hot hatch too......

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This nugget again..A current Excel would probably match a 70s Mk1 GTI in terms of performance but not fun.

Like I said that GTI and other hot hatches of yore have been 3Dr - Whether you like it or not, that was the case. So to qualify as a sporting "hot" hatch, the Golf GTI has to have 3Drs - irrespective of it's performance.

Be happy with your 5Dr GTIs/Rs. But don't argue that it conforms to the traditional concept/template of a sporting hatch. It maybe identical in performance but that's it.

[philthy]

And they are also termed racing taxis with good reason.




This nugget again..A current Excel would probably match a 70s Mk1 GTI in terms of performance but not fun.

Like I said that GTI and other hot hatches of yore have been 3Dr - Whether you like it or not, that was the case. So to qualify as a sporting "hot" hatch, the Golf GTI has to have 3Drs - irrespective of it's performance.

Be happy with your 5Dr GTIs/Rs. But don't argue that it conforms to the traditional concept/template of a sporting hatch. It maybe identical in performance but that's it.

The traditional concept/template of a sporting hatch is about 400-500 kg lighter than a mk 5 or 6 golf, 3 door, 5 door, 4 cyl, 6 cyl or otherwise

[Candyman]

Be happy with your 5Dr GTIs/Rs. But don't argue that it conforms to the traditional concept/template of a sporting hatch. It maybe identical in performance but that's it.

Your definition was correct, historically.

Some need to move on.

Thank god terms are redefined by improvements.