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  • #46
    Originally posted by rs73 View Post
    Yeah, I know... that was the hard part, but according to volkwerke those wiring loom that needs to be constructed are for mk5 owners who want to retrofit mk6 rvc into their car, but for native mk6 the loom should already be in there? but it's just maybe they haven't done it on an mk6 before... let me know how you go when you open up the rear hatch trim and whether the loom is there and useable or do we need to really construct a new loom?
    I've just popped out the tailgate trim on mine and there's definitely no loom in there. BTW, getting that trim out looks a LOT harder than any of the guides I've seen for a Mk5.

    Took pics, etc... will post up a guide when I've done the whole thing.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Pepe View Post
      I've just popped out the tailgate trim on mine and there's definitely no loom in there. BTW, getting that trim out looks a LOT harder than any of the guides I've seen for a Mk5.

      Took pics, etc... will post up a guide when I've done the whole thing.
      Looking forward to it
      MY10 Golf 118tsi DSG | MY07 Polo GTI

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      • #48
        Issue!

        Was just scouting out inside the tailgate with the trim removed... and there's a problem (for R and GTI Adidas peoples anyway). The LED tails use a very different wiring layout to the traditional rear lights. The reverse bulb appears to piggy back off the line that runs to the LEDs, so I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to remove the inner left tail light to get at the connection. Even if I can get to it, there's not a lot of room to work with at all, so going to have to get a bit creative with the loom on this one.

        More to come...

        FYI, the connector to the LEDs is 7N0 972 703. I wasn't able to determine the part number for the actual socket, but I think it's time to go check out that retrofitting LEDs thread!

        Pinched this pic from the UK GTI retrofit thread (thanks chaps!) to illustrate the issue : http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...0/DSCF2181.jpg

        This doesn't actually have a reverse light fitted, but shows the connection. The reverse bulb goes in just below and to the right of the W stencil and it has 3 wires that splice out from the bottom of that plug, where the Red and Brown wires are in that picture. Given the input to that connector is for the rear lights, the splice will need to happen on the backside of that connector, bugger! I'll have to research this a bit more.

        Update

        Doing some more poking around in there, I've figured out a way to make it work even with the above mentioned issue. But, it's going to require a bit more work than the Mk5 or Mk6 with normal lights would require. Got pics and all that of what needs to be done, so will include all that in a guide.
        Last edited by Pepe; 20-10-2010, 08:38 PM.

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        • #49
          Another issue

          Friendly Polish eBay guy supplies the RVC unit that's slightly newer and slightly different than ones in the previous guides. Not sure if the same thing applies to the ECS supplied one, but I noticed recently they superceded the well known part number with a new one too.

          Nothing too dramatic, just different connector and different wiring slightly, but it's going to mean the loom will have to be different regardless of whether you're doing a Mk5 or 6. Mav, I'll let you know the details of what I do as you might want to mention it in your Mk5 guide, one of the connectors is completely different now than it was on the older ones. My RVC has a build date on it of 21/6/10.

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          • #50
            <insert expletive here>

            I've found the part number(s) for the factory loom: 5K6 971 148 - There are about 8 different varieties depending on various options... Grrrr! Not all of them have RVC wiring in them, they are basically full looms for the tailgate for all the lighting by the looks of it. This is the only place I can find an actual picture of it (and it's obviously from a scrap yard or something - well used):

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            • #51
              8 combinations is not too helpful - ECS tuning sells them about $101 USD each, unless someone wants to be adventurous and get all 8 combination it's a bit of a russian roulette

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              • #52
                There's reference to all 8 in this thread : Did someone try this to install?

                But, there are about 5-6 with RVCs in them, so that's not much better. By the looks of that link I put in my last post, the loom is more than just the RVC stuff anyway, so unless you wanted to replace all your cabling, you might as well make one up yourself.

                Looking at the difference between ECS' version and the Polish eBay guy's one, I actually think the loom will be a bit simpler the way I'll end up doing it, as some of the wiring is already in place and it includes one of the connectors you need to buy as well. Just a matter of figuring out which bits belong where now.

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                • #53
                  Hehe, at this rate it doesn't look like I'll be buying a RVC anytime soon - maybe your final guide will change my mind still. Hope you get it sorted.
                  Some say he was the Stig... all we know is that he drives a VW Transporter.
                  Audi A3

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Ryan_R View Post
                    Hehe, at this rate it doesn't look like I'll be buying a RVC anytime soon - maybe your final guide will change my mind still. Hope you get it sorted.
                    You're the smart one here, let someone else make the mistakes first

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                    • #55
                      So been thinking through this and pretty sure the loom (including a new fuse circuit) is down to 9 parts, total.

                      Camera
                      AV cable to RNS
                      3 connectors (and even 2 of these are optional if you're really hardcore with the soldering iron)
                      4 wires

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                      • #56
                        Update for today:

                        Camera/loom all done now, haven't put it in because I need to get a bit of 5mm tubing for the drainage, but will give it a crack tomorrow and hopefully running the cable from front to back won't be too painful.

                        BTW, Camera/loom really is a lot simpler than the Mk5 retrofit ones.

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                        • #57
                          Great - hope you've been taking pictures of it to show the rest of us how to do it

                          Good to hear that it's easy, but have you tested it yet
                          Some say he was the Stig... all we know is that he drives a VW Transporter.
                          Audi A3

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Pepe View Post
                            Update for today:

                            Camera/loom all done now, haven't put it in because I need to get a bit of 5mm tubing for the drainage, but will give it a crack tomorrow and hopefully running the cable from front to back won't be too painful.

                            BTW, Camera/loom really is a lot simpler than the Mk5 retrofit ones.
                            did you use this diagram for the loom?

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                            • #59
                              or this?

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by rs73 View Post
                                or this?

                                You 2nd image isn't valid? But I know the site you're referring to and the one in your previous post, both have been helpful, but both only go about half way to helping fit a Mk6, especially if you have LED tails.

                                Anyway, the new "loom" is much simpler than either the one on my-gti or camel.cc given the differences in the Mk6 vs Mk5 and also with the new version of the camera that seems to be shipping. The parts list is a lot shorter than it used to be, but you will need to know how to work a soldering iron to make it happen.

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