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  • My R also has a pause sometimes which sounds exactly like what AdamD has suggested.


    Black MY12 Golf R DSG, Silver 19", Leather, Sunroof.
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    • Golf R Observations and Questions

      Originally posted by Ideo View Post
      I thought selecting a lower gear was pretty easy and straightfoward.

      Clutch in. Move gearshift from fourth to third (other gears available). Clutch out.
      Easier still with DSG (and more fun), well, on mine

      I did have the mech replaced though
      Last edited by Candyman; 01-11-2012, 10:08 AM.
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      • Probably a silly question but, when in manual mode with the DSG, is it ok to let the gears change down by itself when approaching say a red light, or should you be changing down manually?
        MY13 Golf R Rising Blue ; DSG ; ACC ; Sunroof ; RVC ; 19" Black Talladegas

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        • Golf R Observations and Questions

          Originally posted by bobdog View Post
          Probably a silly question but, when in manual mode with the DSG, is it ok to let the gears change down by itself when approaching say a red light, or should you be changing down manually?
          It's perfectly fine

          That's the flexibility the DSG offers
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          • Thanks Candyman
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            • Golf R Observations and Questions

              Originally posted by bobdog View Post
              Thanks Candyman
              Just be careful though

              Some people tend to forget they are in manual mode when they take off

              Likewise some who use manual a lot and use auto rarely go to change gear with the stick

              I've done it ! On my GTI though when I was getting used to DSG. Rather embarrassing
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              • Originally posted by AdamD View Post
                James is referring to the delay when selecting the next lower gear in manual mode, when the DSG has already preselected the next upper gear. There is a delay, it's unavoidable, and is present on every DSG I've driven for an extended period (and that'd be 6 or more).

                The DSG needs to anticipate the direction of change you intend to make, before you make it. Say you're in 4th and are decelerating (or even cruising), the alternate shaft may have 3rd preselected, and in those cases, you can instantly shift to 3rd (and as soon as you do, the DSG will anticipate the same situation will occur again and will preselect 2nd on the shaft that originally had 4th engaged, and so on, giving you seamless, fast downshifts).

                However, if you're accelerating in 4th (and the DSG has anticipated 5th will be required next and has preselected), and you then downshift whilst accelerating, the DSG will need to pause while the secondary shaft changes from 5th to 3rd. Sometimes you may even feel some hesitation in the power delivery when it finally does shift.

                I've seen exactly this behaviour from several VW DSGs, and am confident it's not related to any mechatronic fault.
                Good on you, AdamD.
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                • Originally posted by Candyman View Post
                  Just be careful though

                  Some people tend to forget they are in manual mode when they take off

                  Likewise some who use manual a lot and use auto rarely go to change gear with the stick

                  I've done it ! On my GTI though when I was getting used to DSG. Rather embarrassing
                  Lol, I have done that a couple of times, but I quickly learn when I hear the engine

                  Haven't drive a manual since I sold my 2002 325Ci, that was quite a nice car to drive
                  MY13 Golf R Rising Blue ; DSG ; ACC ; Sunroof ; RVC ; 19" Black Talladegas

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                  • Golf R Observations and Questions

                    Originally posted by bobdog View Post
                    Lol, I have done that a couple of times, but I quickly learn when I hear the engine

                    Haven't drive a manual since I sold my 2002 325Ci, that was quite a nice car to drive


                    I drive a manual at weekends and sometimes during the week but always look forward to going back to the DSG, it is that much fun

                    The R's DSG (well mine) is very well behaved compared to my MKV GTI I owned.

                    Cleaner shifts, no hesitation, smooth in reverse and low speed.
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                      Bob

                      How are you finding the torque from the R versus the Beemer ?

                      Should be close in terms of day to day driving but no doubt the Beemer has better response off the mark
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                      • Who me? and what Beemer?
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                        • Originally posted by Candyman View Post
                          ....
                          I did have the mech replaced though
                          The mech was replaced on my MKV GTI due to false neutrals etc. Was all good from then on, but my R has a slight shudder in first gear M mode. What symptoms did yours have?

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                          • Originally posted by brimway View Post
                            The mech was replaced on my MKV GTI due to false neutrals etc. Was all good from then on, but my R has a slight shudder in first gear M mode. What symptoms did yours have?
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                              Originally posted by SilvrFoxX View Post
                              Who me? and what Beemer?
                              No, the other bob, bobdog
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                              • Originally posted by Candyman View Post
                                Bob

                                How are you finding the torque from the R versus the Beemer ?

                                Should be close in terms of day to day driving but no doubt the Beemer has better response off the mark
                                It could be just perception, but the beemer feels like it has more torque at the lower end, that is on take off. With the R it feels a bit wheezy until its gets past 2.5k rpm

                                The beemer had a more linear torque curve but the R feels more brutal once you past the magical rev mark. It could just be me needing to get used to turbo

                                I think I really need to drive the R in manual mode often, ashamed to admit it but I would say 80% of my current driving is in D…
                                MY13 Golf R Rising Blue ; DSG ; ACC ; Sunroof ; RVC ; 19" Black Talladegas

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