The Official Mk6 Golf DSG Clutch / Shudder / Squeal Issues Thread

[AdamD]

Anyway, I rang the dealer and they have found a problem. Receptionist couldn't tell me what but they have ordered parts overnight and it should be ready for pick up tomorrow. My guess is that it has a throttle pedal dead spot.

Heard back from the dealer yet Stu? What's the diagnosis?

[Ozram]

Ozram,

I call dibbs on those LED tails if you venture for a new car.

LOL!!!

OK then. Chuckling me head off here.

[mythik]

Ozram,

I call dibbs on those LED tails if you venture for a new car.

[Ozram]

I feel for you. I am in the same boat ( or rather same car! ). My thinking in my case is possibly go to the GTI rather than hang around onto the current car until the Golf 7. Reasoning is that the GTI is based in a more mature technology that would have fewer issues than the 118tsi. The other consideration are teething issues from being an early adopter again with Golf 7.

Extended warranty is around another $1400. Maybe bail sooner.

You have obviously done lots for your car and it would be a pity to sell so soon.

Don't get me wrong, I still love it to bits and think it is an amazing piece of technology. I'm not getting all drama queen about the issues with it (unlike some). But I have to be realistic too. DSG breakdowns outside of warranty are going to be very costly.

Maybe not a pity if I can get a good price. I'd remove the LED tailights and sell them privately for a start. That would get a tint and half an opi-coat on a new car.

Now, if only I can convince the missus that we only need a 3 door. Hopefully by July / August VW will have a few more Roc's in stock and that they are more negotiable on price. If not then it looks like a GTI. Either way its a win.


Anyway, I rang the dealer and they have found a problem. Receptionist couldn't tell me what but they have ordered parts overnight and it should be ready for pick up tomorrow. My guess is that it has a throttle pedal dead spot.

[ozgti]

That's how mine started I think. It had issues with talking and no gear at intersections. Once at the m2 off ramp with a dump truck screeching it's brakes as I wasn't moving on green and another was at an intersection on a hill ad it slipped then no gear. Not happy. Not happy at all!!

[omgolf]

My dsg died this morning.

sorry to hear that mate
I experienced my first shudder in 2nd gear this morning in traffic - while rolling up a slope in slow movement, it felt like the clutch wasn't fully engaged and then when I give a bit more gas the shudder came. I eased off the pedal, manual downshift to 1st and didn't shift up to 2nd until 2500rpm.

Then in the carpark I tried to reproduce it and I found it is much easier to get the shudder in 2nd on a slope. Probably time to book in for a clutch pack replacement

[ozgti]

My dsg died this morning. Started it up, put it into R and nothing. D nothing. CEL light on and gear display flashing! Checked fuses, 30a #2 fuse blown. Call roadside assist, they send nrma and he replaces the blown fuse only for it to blow straight away. It's now about to get a tow to service!

Best but is, they don't have a courtesy car available until thursday!!!

[Brian]

I feel for people that have problems with their TSI. Fortunately I haven't had any, so consider myself lucky. However I will be getting the extended warranty in 6 months when the 3 years warranty runs out. Still the best car I've ever owned.
Brian

[cktsi]

Six months left on the warranty. Hmmm, extended warranty or GTI / Roc?

Decisions.

I feel for you. I am in the same boat ( or rather same car! ). My thinking in my case is possibly go to the GTI rather than hang around onto the current car until the Golf 7. Reasoning is that the GTI is based in a more mature technology that would have fewer issues than the 118tsi. The other consideration are teething issues from being an early adopter again with Golf 7.

Extended warranty is around another $1400. Maybe bail sooner.

You have obviously done lots for your car and it would be a pity to sell so soon.

[Ozram]

Took ours back to the dealer yesterday. The DSG has been like brand new since the clutch pack fitment. Unfortunately travelling to work on Friday & the missus reported that while taking off from either a standing start or slow speed there was absolutely no throttle response. She had the pedal to the floor and the engine did not rev. She managed to get it to work, and on the return run home there was no sign of the problem. It sounds like maybe an electrical connection / throttle pedal potentiometer issue that the engine ECU reset once the ignition was switched off. No warning lights came up and as I had my VCDS cable at work I couldn't scan it.

It was OK on the drive down to the dealers yesterday too. Hopefully they can see a fault with their software. Intermittent problems really are the worst to diagnose.

Six months left on the warranty. Hmmm, extended warranty or GTI / Roc?

Decisions.

[Alok]

The clutch is controlled by the mechatronic unit so I don't believe you can put it down to driver fault. Also the fact that VW are replacing clutch packs under warranty suggests that it is indeed a manufacturing fault since warranty doesn't cover damages that are caused by the user.

[Brian]

Interesting to note that posters seem to bag the 118TSi, but after 3 years I've never had a problem with mine. Is it the way different people treat their cars / whatever fuel they put in them or just their driving style? I'll back my car to the hilt against other makes for refinement and lack of issues.
Brian

[Rendog]

I've been watching this and the 118TSI engine problem thread for a while, I can see why VW got plaster in the US about reliability

JD Power survey | Most dependable cars after three years

Having said that it seems that the 118TSI is the model with most of the issues (although TDI people seem to have had a few DSG issues). Personally I have had no problems with my Golf but it is less complex model and complexity may ultimately be where the issue lies for this generation of Golfs...

[cktsi]

Wow... I have not logged in for and it is a surprise to see this thread is still going... Although quite disheartening from a quality standpoint.

I still have mild shudder when the car takes up 2nd gear. I have complained to vw head office after the first dealer refused to acknowledge the problem was still there. So i took the car in for a second opinion at another dealership and they also said it was "within tolerance".

The problem is not getting worse, but needless to say i will be getting the extended warranty.

I did notice how creamy smooth a new jetta with 7 DSG was and i pointed that out to the first dealer. Even though they were the ones who know my car history and replaced the clutch pack, they didnt buy the story.

I did drive a new comfortline 118tsi with sports and noticed it did have juddering in 2nd from a crawl. That did surprise me, so maybe it is within spec? Whilst it may be within spec, it certainly isnt how my car was in the first 22,000 km of its life.

Anyway, well done to those who have had the problem fully resolved by the new clutch pack. I can only say to those who have the problem, get it seen to sooner than later. Perhaps the length of time to acknowledgement and resolution was a factor in my issue not getting fully resolved.

I only hope this thread can make the ownership experience a little less frustrating than it is for me. I have decided no APR for me

[Brian]

Interesting to note that at least 3 people have posted stating that their dealer has suggested that the revised pump / clutch is a permanent fix.
However, other dealers claim its only a temporary fix with the same unit going back in the car. WTF?
Has VAG any idea what's going on? I think not.
Brian