Golf R -v- Golf GTI

[triode12]

Before I had the R32 I had a Clio Sport for 3 years and it was quite alot of fun. Got rid of it as lots of interior bits started to fall off!

The 172 or 182?
A friend used to own both and he says that they are more fun to drive than the 197/200.

[triode12]

I must admit I am one of the few that didn't trade sideways. In the eyes of many, I traded down. I loved my R32. It wouldn't come close to beating an R on track, but for sheer driving joy, there was nothing better than having the windows down, sunroof open and giving it a good dose of throttle. It made the hairs stand up on the back of your neck. For the day to day driving stuff, that's what I think the R32 did brilliantly, and where the R "lost me". It just didn't feel special enough, unless you were able to use those extra tenths it has on the GTI off public roads.

It used to bug me no end that in car reviews the jurnos always talked about how much better dynamically the GTI was over the R32. But I realised, it didn't matter what they thought. I was in love with my car and it made me feel good.

So as long as you love your car, it makes you smile when you walk towards it and it makes you look back after you've parked it, what does it matter if it is a GTI or an R or an old R32?

P.S: forum would be far more dull without WJ

The reason you feel you traded down is because you bought a MkVI GTI.

[sabloke]

Well, that might be the case, but can I buy a brand new Clio Williams at the Renault dealer? No. So the 200 would do. Show me one current hot hatch that is as much fun to drive as the 182...
The same applies to most hot hatches, the've grown up and pilled up kilos. The rest are outright boring to drive and nothing more than specced up versions of the shopping trolley ilk.

[triode12]

Well, that might be the case, but can I buy a brand new Clio Williams at the Renault dealer? No. So the 200 would do. Shown me one current hot hatch that is as much fun to drive as the 182...
The same applies to most hot hatches, the've grown up and pilled up kilos. The rest are outright boring to drive and nothing more than specced up versions of the shopping trolley ilk.

Agreed. Nothing you can buy new (hatch wise) that I have tested lately has been fun to drive except the R. Haven't tried the RS250 yet - so there is hope yet. You'll never see me driving a Mini Cooper that is for sure.

[backdoc]

The reason you feel you traded down is because you bought a MkVI GTI.

As I said, in the eyes of many. It is a step down in cost and performance, but in the real world how big a step down is it? The debate would be endless, as this thread demonstrates. The old, mines bigger than yours

I had the Clio 182. I was driving across some train tracks once & the whole roof mounted electrics set up (lights etc) fell out and was hanging down by the electrical wires and swinging in front of my face. That was funny.............not!

[Corey_R]

So as long as you love your car, it makes you smile when you walk towards it and it makes you look back after you've parked it, what does it matter if it is a GTI or an R or an old R32?

Agreed man

Heck, I wouldn't buy a Renault car either. Not even a next model Renault Sport by the looks of it.

lol... that's clutching at straws. Whatever the case, the Renault that triode12 mentioned was a Renault Sport.

[sabloke]

Problem (for me!) with the Mini and, no offence, the Golf, is that you see too many wannabes and cougars driving them. Way too many. Not saying that's a wrong ting, well done VW for making them get one, is just that's something to make me stay away from those two brands...

[sabloke]

Agreed man


lol... that's clutching at straws. Whatever the case, the Renault that triode12 mentioned was a Renault Sport.

Oh, is it now? The stories on this forum about brand new engines that leak or chew oil, are they made by VW? Are we to conclude that all VW engines are bad, based on those threads? If I'm to chose between engine/DSG gearbox problems and anything else, well I'd chose bullet proof drivetrain over a leaky roof any day. I had my car for over 14 months and had no issues, none. Even tracked the bugger a few times

[Corey_R]

Problem (for me!) with the Mini and, no offence, the Golf, is that you see too many wannabes and cougars driving them. Way too many.

Cougars are awesome man. And what better way to strike up a convo with them than pulling up next to them in the same car

[backdoc]

Cougars are awesome man. And what better way to strike up a convo with them than pulling up next to them in the same car

Must admit, I was thinking the same about Cougars

[sabloke]

Cougars are awesome man. And what better way to strike up a convo with them than pulling up next to them in the same car

Oh, here's something we agree on 150% However, I wouldn't say they're just awesome. They're the best!. Not much chance starting something pulling in my Clio next to one though... hard to start a discussion from "what the hell is that?"

[SilvrFoxX]

Thread Name chage required : Can you pick up Cougars better in a GTI or an R

Examples need to be specified in all gory detail

[sabloke]

I'd say none. Try with a Polo GTI, these days geek is the new chic

[triode12]

Thread Name chage required : Can you pick up Cougars better in a GTI or an R

Examples need to be specified in all gory detail

Better chances in a GTI I would say...I've seen more cougars in GTIs than Rs.

[sabloke]

you're right, and the ones driving Rs might not be real cougars but R owners spouses