Golf R -v- Golf GTI

[adzy]

My friend Ray nearly bought a C63 AMG but he couldn't beleive it didn't come in FWD, he ended up getting a Nissan Pulsar REEBOK!

[Xciteu]

I live my life by the motto WWRD - What Would Ray Do? It is my guidance through difficult times.

Ha! Classic!

[WhiteJames]

What would I buy?

For anyone is looking for an almost fully loaded Golf R 5 door DSG in Rising Blue (minus sunroof & recaro seats), then visit Sutherland Volkswagen and offer them around the 68K mark and it’s yours in late Aug or early Sept. They have spoken to Ray and confirm that he does indeed exist lol. Mind you, Ray didn’t have to forfeit his 1K deposit as he was legally entitled to reimbursement of this money, but left the 1K to the dealer to cover their inconvenience, despite his annoyance.

In terms of looks of the Golf R: You have to compare it to the Blue R32. The R32 has blue callipers, blue mirrors, classy silver grill, splashing of brushed aluminium inside the cabin. According to Ray, the Golf R has gone a bit cheap in this respect using black as a standard colour. Add Ray’s Pioneer SATNAV stereo with 6” screen that ****es all over the standard top end SATNAV unit that Ray optioned in the new Golf R (with Dynaudio), and it is not difficult to see some cost cutting from the executive looking R32 to the more boy racer looking Golf R. These attributes may not be important to you and I, but they are important to Ray who already owns an R32 and is spending another 30K for not a lot more (less in some respects). Ray reckons the GTI looks classier than the Golf R in terms of grown up appeal.

Every cloud has a silver lining: Out local dealer is saying the Mark 7 Golf GTI is due in showrooms in early 2013. Ray will hold off until then as he doesn’t want to leave the Volkswagen stable and is happy with the product.

I just covered 3,000km in 10 days of driving from Sydney to Gold Coast including Byron Bay, Brisbane, Tweed Valley and Raby Bay and the GTI performed fantastically in almost every regard in all types & conditions of driving. I visited the Southport Volkswagen Dealership and Gold Coast Renault Dealer to compare a few vehicles. Looked at the Golf R’s (interest has waned in this vehicle), Polo GTI (too small esp. in the boot), and Megane RS250 (hard dashboard plastics, small aperture for boot, 3 door only & crap stereo & instruments). If I had to buy tomorrow: It would be either a White or Red GTI as I have, but losing the Bi-Xenon’s as I don’t drive much at night or a Renault Megane RS250 Trophee in White. Both may be had for about 48K imo – otherwise, like Ray, wait to see how good the Mark 7 Golf GTI will be come early 2013.

Cheers
WJ

[Ideo]

How many kms do you in dealership cars that you are never going to buy, and how many hours do you spend talking to salesmen out of interest?

[littlejohn]

How many kms do you in dealership cars that you are never going to buy, and how many hours do you spend talking to salesmen out of interest?

+1...
WJ... the tyre kicker of all tyre kickers... or Tyre Kicker King.

WJ,
I used to think you posted some really informative reviews. But your obvious bias and incessant ranting has dulled your credibility.
With the majority of posts you've made lately in this thread, you may as well start off with... "There's this guys I know....."

[backdoc]

We could publish a vw watercooled book with a collection of short stories about Ray. Who can do the artwork?

[SilvrFoxX]

. "There's this guys I know....."

This one time in band camp...

[Rob_R]

We could publish a vw watercooled book with a collection of short stories about Ray. Who can do the artwork?

hehe, and some tall stories too. We should give him a charity award also for donating money to a struggling VW dealer. Such a nice guy.

[backdoc]

hehe, and some tall stories too. We should give him a charity award also for donating money to a struggling VW dealer. Such a nice guy.

That was the best bit. He was over the delay, but then gave them $1000 for their trouble, even though he didn't have to.

WJ, is Ray actually Jesus?

[DCRL]

"Ray thinks the GTI is classier than Golf R in grown up appeal", seriously then why didn't Ray get a loaded GTI. WJ just because you like your GTI does not mean its better or classier. I currently drive a BMW 3 series and I think the Golf R is as classy or classier than the current BMW 3 series or 1 series. But I would not say that about a GTI.

I chose the Golf R after comparing the 135, Audi S3, for me how much I pay a month for the car was not an issue, as I would paid what I paying now for my 3 series for either the 135 or Audi S 3. But for me the drive, the engine sound, the clean but classy interior of the golf R won me over and for $ you pay it's the best value car in it's range. I actually read your reviews last year and it's a great review but the more I read your comments since then, I am glad I purchased the Golf R.

[dave_r]

That was the best bit. He was over the delay, but then gave them $1000 for their trouble, even though he didn't have to.

WJ, is Ray actually Jesus?

LOL but maybe WJ should be giving them $1k for their troubles as well. These guys are there to make a living like the rest of us. But busting their chops continually is being a prick IMO.

[philthy]

I just hope Ray doesn't buy a convertible. Would be a shame to mess up that hair.

[dave_r]

The R32 has blue callipers, blue mirrors, classy silver grill, splashing of brushed aluminium inside the cabin. According to Ray, the Golf R has gone a bit cheap in this respect using black as a standard colour. Add Ray’s Pioneer SATNAV stereo with 6” screen that ****es all over the standard top end SATNAV unit that Ray optioned in the new Golf R (with Dynaudio), and it is not difficult to see some cost cutting from the executive looking R32 to the more boy racer looking Golf R.

Lol blue calipers is executive? A classy silver grill which isn't sporty at all all? Talking about an aftermarket satnav, what the hell is stopping this imaginary clown from swapping this super awesome mega happy funtime satnav to his new R? Did it ever occur to you that the black theme of the trim, mirrors etc is a current styling thing? Audi charges their customers a fair wack for the "black optics" look. But if you are getting that picky, find a local panel shop and have the bits painted in whatever is classy and executive! Not sure how a GTI looks classier or grown up, wouldn't the red trimmings scare the boring executive crowd with their silver 320i's and C200's?

Every cloud has a silver lining: Out local dealer is saying the Mark 7 Golf GTI is due in showrooms in early 2013. Ray will hold off until then as he doesn’t want to leave the Volkswagen stable and is happy with the product.

So you and "ray" are going to waste the poor dealers time for another 2 years and then probably still not buy something? You were calling the Polo GTI the greatest car around before it even landed, now you're doing it with the next GTI? Must be the nicest dealer around because if I was running that place, I'd have gladly told you and your imaginary friend to **** off by now.

[Whistler]

An open letter to ray:

Hello Ray, it's nice to finally talk to you.
1. Re your thinking a GTI is a executive choice. I have to say that in my workplace those selected into the executive team are not the young lads in accounts or IT that drive GTIs. No, far more taste must be displayed. We can't possibly have our execs running around in cars that scream "me too" or "try hard but must try harder"
2. "have to compare with a blue R32?". Again, blue is so last decade and even our tea lady thinks blue calipers are crass and belong only on HSV ironmongery vehicles. Also, I don't "have to" compare any car to those blunted up, nose heavy dinosaurs.
3. Our board has decreed that the golf R is superior in everyday to it's little GTI brother. The DNA is similar but the little one is "special needs" - needs generally provided by a run to your nearest tuning house with a cheque book and a fantasy.
4. Ray, your descision to relinquish your apparent order just weeks before delivery after waiting, what, some eight months reveals a foolishness not wanted within an organization such as ours. Either that or your finances fell through. Neither reason befits a character that we could consider for executive roles.
5. If your desire is to recind to the front wheel drive lesser sibling for that reason, then I understand that some feel (strangely) that front drive is superior. (quiet chuckle in board room) that religious belief is your right, but your loss
6. If you still feel strongly about a front wheel drive consider purchasing the Megane RS (possibly in you price range) and enjoy blowing away the GTIs you meet, but again, don't expect an executive roll

Sincerely

Whistler

[Rob_R]

hehe, very funny.

I just hope Ray doesn't buy a convertible. Would be a shame to mess up that hair.