Golf R -v- Golf GTI

[MkVIGTI]

After nearly 1500 posts, the only reason needed on why an R is better than a GTI is that comes in Rising Blue

LOL, not when the Rocco gets here

[Corey_R]

LOL, not when the Rocco gets here

The Scirocco is a Golf GTI? When did that happen

[sabloke]

Scirocco is not a Golf GTI, true. It is a Golf GTI MKV with a sexier shell. Biiiiig difference

[Corey_R]

lol... either way, in this discussion of the Golf GTI vs Golf R, the Scirocco, just like any other car, has no factor

[adzy]

From what I have been reading the Scirocco IS based on the GTI platform (as we already know) however the finished product is far better behind the wheel. Stiffer suspension of course and much more feedback through the wheel.. doesn't the scirocco have wider track front and rear also; which would improve handling greatly. Receiving great reviews from journo's in europe, a much more focused 'drivers' car.

[sabloke]

So, if the reviewers are right and the Scirocco is a better driver's car, despite being based on GTI MkV, does that mean a current GTI with a 188 kW tune is also a better drive than Golf R? Comparing white cars to neutralize R's blue superiority, of course.

[adzy]

So, if the reviewers are right and the Scirocco is a better driver's car, despite being based on GTI MkV, does that mean a current GTI with a 188 kW tune is also a better drive than Golf R? Comparing white cars to neutralize R's blue superiority, of course.

Its not all about power, the main points I have heard reference to is the poise, steering feedback and reduction in understeer. It is set up with stiffer springs and sway bars compared to the MKVI GTI. It all depends if you want a chassis that is more playfull/adjustable (FWD)

[sabloke]

Looks like Scirocco is faster than the all paws Golf around the track. Interesting video here.. Another proof that part time AWD is not exactly bees knees

In case you don't feel like watching the whole seven minutes, here's the conclusion:

[adzy]

The scirocco is a weapon. Seen this vid, the doods at the start cant drive to save themselves!! The last guy is bloody good though.

[Corey_R]

Looks like Scirocco is faster than the all paws Golf around the track. Interesting video here.. Another proof that part time AWD is not exactly bees knees

In case you don't feel like watching the whole seven minutes, here's the conclusion:

Well... since this is the Golf GTI vs R thread, and has nothing to do with the Scirocco, you have settled the thread for us. The Golf R is 2.5 seconds quicker than the Golf GTI, and therefore better! /Thread

[sabloke]

I thought this video is great, bringing together all of VW hot hatches. Sure, the R is faster than the GTI by a fair margin but then it was to be expected given the power difference. Funny how much taller GTI and R look next to the Scirocco!

[Rob_R]

If I was the Scirocco I'd be fastest around the track also because I too would hate being continually hit from behind with an ugly stick!!!

[adzy]

I cant say I love the design either realy, but I wish I did.

[DDTW]

Looks like Scirocco is faster than the all paws Golf around the track. Interesting video here.. Another proof that part time AWD is not exactly bees knees

In case you don't feel like watching the whole seven minutes, here's the conclusion:

The time captured here is for a less twisty track. The commentator mentioned that because the Rocco doesn't have 4-Motion, it has a higher top speed and will perform better on less twisty tracks.

[SuperHans]

looks like the Polo GTI is a bargain then - I wonder how much faster/slower it would be than 118TSI.

Although I've heard its not as much fun to drive, no feel in the steering etc