Golf R -v- Golf GTI

[Glennb]

So if i get the wifes 147 Tiggy chipped, as well as my R (whenever it gets here), then i should have the best of both worlds then?
Wonder if i can get a "2 for the price of 1" deal from APR

[SilvrFoxX]

So, Tiguans crew, let them discuss the difference between GTI and R in peace.

If it were actually a discussion...

[SilvrFoxX]

So if i get the wifes 147 Tiggy chipped, as well as my R (whenever it gets here), then i should have the best of both worlds then?
Wonder if i can get a "2 for the price of 1" deal from APR

Wife or chip..?

[simonm]

So, we're all agreed that the Bluemotion Golf is the best vehicle on the planet, for any conceivable purpose, bar none?

[Corey_R]

Guys, we're moving on ok. Get back to talking about the GTI and the R, or don't post.

[Mountainman]

Base model 125TSI was 33,900 Drive away in June.
Add on 2k for the ecu remap and you have a 36k AWD hatch/softroader. (would be less as the EOFYS sale was on for APR)
189kw and 402NM of torque with the same AWD system as the Golf R yet you save a lot of cash.

It still weighs at least 134kg more, is missing a hell of a lot of equipment and looks dorky in comparison.

[SilvrFoxX]

Guys, please tell me that not all 68 pages are like these last 2 or 3 I've read.

looks dorky in comparison.

Don't poke the bear

[Danny]

Pack your bags and sound the whistle,
I'll be heading straight for you.
Don't be shocked but I've been thinking, theres some things that we might do

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooh oooh oooh ooh You are walkin' iiiin

[Corey_R]

Guys, I asked you previously to get back on topic as well as stop the Tiguan vs everything else stuff. You didn't.

Then Transporter again asked you guys again nicely to get back on topic. You still didn't.

So a Supermoderator has come along and given several of the most recent posts an infraction and deleted several posts which just weren't even worth the hassle.

You're lucky the person who gave the infractions is so nice and give very minor ones, I would have given the standard 3 points for questioning/ignoring a moderator.

If you want to post off-topic stuff, make a thread in General - that's what its for!
So seriously, either get back on topic or face further infractions. You've been warned (several times now!)

[Danny]

Corey I think the question has been answered here, All we're really doing now is continuing to flog a dead horse. The thread should have been locked, long ago.

The only new revelations anyone may be able to offer after 70 pages of debate have either already been stated, or just be detrimental.

Stuff infractions and warnings (whatever the hell that is), the thread has had all the juice squeezed out of it, it's done it job. Kill it.

[Corey_R]

What question?

This is a discussion on peoples opinions of the GTI vs the R, there is no "Thread question" to be asked here.
If we took that view, most threads could be locked after a single page.

So I'm not locking the thread. If you or anyone else doesn't want to contribute, then don't.
Other people will come along and give their opinion if they feel the need to and there is no point them opening another thread to do it just because this one is locked.

[SilvrFoxX]

In the November edition of Motor and there are two articles referencing Golf R, the first a compao to the new WRX STI mostly refering the AUto/DSG solutions and the second a summary of a 4 month trail of a 5 door R put through all conditions.. the outcome is no surprise but what I thought was a good final comment was the reference to the ongoing arguement surrounding the Golf R v GTI

"Back in September we asked if the R was better value than the GTI. Crunching Dollars against pace, perhaps not.But value isn't really the agenda for a range topping , fastest-Golf-ever with $10k of options ticked , now is it..?

Instead look at it this way : What other finely built 13 second-qucik, solid, quiet, dependable, roomy(for its class) and practicle German car that is fitted with leather, bi xenons, heated seats, multisetting dampers, reversing camera, , highbrow infotainment, and a partridge in a pear tree...is out there for $63K plus ORC?

For the hatch that wants to live a little, it actually lives a lot. And thats is kinda the point of the R. It looks bolder and sharper than the trapped-in-tradition GTI, and its interior design and feel is much richer. And it suggests its owner has a bit more imagination than the pragmatic, me-too GTI crowd."

Now these are the views of the journalist but I think even the proud GTI owners would have to admit there is a dimension to the R which this commentary appears to capture...

[Danny]

Yes but the R at this price with the value it presents is at the very risk of becoming the next "me too" Vheicle to have!
Silverfoxx - Always appreciate your level headedness!!

Transporter - You have a full inbox, I could not reply.
I apologise for my antagonizing behaviour, and will endeavour to grow up and act my age in future

-Dan

[nigel]

In response to the journalist above, most people buy a car in their budget. GTI best car in the mid 40K range. R best car in the mid 50k range. Suggesting imagination and pragmatisim are the deciding factors are just nonsense. If your budget is R territory buy an R if it's GTI buy a GTI. The same argument with WRX and STI and XR5 and Focus RS if you can afford the more expensive car get it. If you can't your still left with something pretty special so enjoy.

[Pepe]

Touche...

When it comes to the R or the GTI, there's no wrong answer