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**SilvrFoxX** · 09-07-2011, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by Xciteu View Post

It is a bit amusing though isn't it?! The hostility seems to come from those that have a GTI trying to justify why they didn't buy an R.
While those who opted to buy the R are over the moon with their purchase and can't wipe the smile of their faces. Glad I spent a bit more coin....

naaaa. I think he is taking the p!ss as much as we are

**Xciteu** · 09-07-2011, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by SilvrFoxX View Post

naaaa. I think he is taking the p!ss as much as we are

You know...I thought so. Can't tell with you guys!

**chopper** · 09-07-2011, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by Xciteu View Post

It is a bit amusing though isn't it?! The hostility seems to come from those that have a GTI trying to justify why they didn't buy an R.
While those who opted to buy the R are over the moon with their purchase and can't wipe the smile of their faces. Glad I spent a bit more coin....

Really... I thought this thread was about R owners trying to justify why they spent the extra money on an inferior product (... OK similar product)?!

OK... I only bought a GTI...

**SilvrFoxX** · 09-07-2011, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by chopper View Post

Really... I thought this thread was about R owners trying to justify why they spent the extra money on an inferior product (... OK similar product)?!

OK... I only bought a GTI...

bwahhahahahahaha

**WhiteJames** · 09-07-2011, 06:42 PM

Nissan Maxima -v- Polo GTI

One of the best looking Golf's imo is the std 118TSI in White with Sports Pack (non DCC). It has nice looking polished wheels, fog lamps, simple Golf looking exterior, sports interior seats, lowest ride height of all Golf's with exception of the Golf R (yes ... lower than the GTI and 118TSi with DCC). It doesn't have all this over the top fancy spoilers, skirts, double exhaust pipes, rear difusers, etc. Just simple, understated and classy ... all for about 35K. The GTI's 18" Detriot wheels are also polished with clear coat & have the inner side of the wheel painted in black, unlike the Golf R. Despite the brake dust & road grime on the Detriots, they very rarely do they look dirty. Yes ... that's another reason why Ray rescinded on his order and is going to wait to see what the Mark 7 GTI is like. Sirocco R is a no go for him atm. I mentioned before that Ray who is in his mid 40's, his business partner Victor who is pushing 50 years of age and I were going to put together a Golf GTI - Golf R - Polo GTI drive review. What did Victor buy instead of the Polo GTI? A top of the range fully loaded Nissan Maxima for about 45K. Yes ... from Polo GTI with Bi-Xenons for 35K and 12 months wait to a Nissan Maxima 350. The Nissan was in stock for immediate delivery. Ray did looked at the Hyundai I45 top of range model to compare quality & craftmanship to the Lexus IS350 and his rrp $74500 Golf R. The quality of the Hyundai I45 was remarking good compared to the Golf R. Point is that when buyers of Volkswagen products, be it Polo GTI or Golf R, sohp for a new ride, they do not always shop around for the best or fastest hot hatch on offer or the best Golf allrounder for that matter, which in this case is the GTI. After some more thought ... Ray's almost fully loaded Golf R does not have a sunroof, which may hamper the dealers ability to make a sale as most loaded Golf R's are optioned with a sunroof. Maybe an offer of 66K for Ray's rescined Golf R order could be on the cards.
Oh yeah; here's a link to the Maxima and Hyundai I45 fyi. Both can be had for under 45K with heaps of options as standard.

Nissan Maxima Family Car: Offers, Deals, Prices - Nissan Australia

i45 Introduction - Hyundai Motor Company Australia

Cheers.
WJ

**SilvrFoxX** · 09-07-2011, 06:52 PM

WJ, I looked at your post, looked at the calendar and then at the time, I came to the conclusion that you got toasted mighty early on a Saturday night

**DCRL** · 09-07-2011, 07:15 PM

WJ, Ray should look at the new Touareg if he wants executive class, should not Downgrade from a R32 to Hyundai.

**sabloke** · 09-07-2011, 07:26 PM

Hyundai is on the rise when it comes to quality. Have a look at the new Kia Rio that's launching in Europe. On the other hand... Just watched Fifth Gear's review of VW's flagship, the Phaeton. Verdict: boring and already dated. Go figure, the most luxurious VW ever failed...
Not a Kia or Hyundai fan but I have to say that in this day and age laughing at Korean cars looks pretty stupid

The European car manufacturers stopped laughing long time ago for some reason.

**SilvrFoxX** · 09-07-2011, 07:48 PM

Cause they hired all the European designers

**dave_r** · 09-07-2011, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by chopper View Post

Really... I thought this thread was about R owners trying to justify why they spent the extra money on an inferior product

So did I?

**triode12** · 09-07-2011, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by sabloke View Post

Hyundai is on the rise when it comes to quality. Have a look at the new Kia Rio that's launching in Europe. On the other hand... Just watched Fifth Gear's review of VW's flagship, the Phaeton. Verdict: boring and already dated. Go figure, the most luxurious VW ever failed...
Not a Kia or Hyundai fan but I have to say that in this day and age laughing at Korean cars looks pretty stupid

The European car manufacturers stopped laughing long time ago for some reason.

The quality of the Korean cars have certainly improved by leaps and bounds. I distinctly remember running my hand across the duco of a 1999 Hyundai Sonata at their showroom and there were bits of grit under the clear and there was a obvious orange peel finish to it. The Kias aren't too bad design wise, but the i45 just looks vulgar at every angle.

**Corey_R** · 09-07-2011, 10:36 PM

Originally posted by sabloke View Post

Hyundai is on the rise when it comes to quality. Have a look at the new Kia Rio that's launching in Europe. On the other hand... Just watched Fifth Gear's review of VW's flagship, the Phaeton. Verdict: boring and already dated. Go figure, the most luxurious VW ever failed...
Not a Kia or Hyundai fan but I have to say that in this day and age laughing at Korean cars looks pretty stupid

The European car manufacturers stopped laughing long time ago for some reason.

It's funny you mention the Koreans. They can't get enough of the Phaeton. They buy more Phaetons than they do Golfs, Jettas and Passats put together... in two weeks in Seoul, I only saw a handful of cars which weren't black, white, or some shade of grey inbetween. Why would VW change the Phaeton or make it fancier when it sells so highly in markets like that in it's current state?

**SilvrFoxX** · 10-07-2011, 07:43 AM

Originally posted by Corey_R View Post

It's funny you mention the Koreans. They can't get enough of the Phaeton. They buy more Phaetons than they do Golfs, Jettas and Passats put together... in two weeks in Seoul, I only saw a handful of cars which weren't black, white, or some shade of grey inbetween. Why would VW change the Phaeton or make it fancier when it sells so highly in markets like that in it's current state?

lol same comments can be made of the Subaru range and Americans

**SilvrFoxX** · 10-07-2011, 12:22 PM

Now this Thread ( below) seems to wrap up the whole R v GTI conversation.. why would you buy a GTI them mod it with all the R parts

Just buy an R FFS

VWVortex.com - johnny's GTI Thread

( I am starting to wonder if it is WJ's alter ego )

**sabloke** · 10-07-2011, 12:39 PM

Well, the same could be said about Golf R. Why buy an R and then spend all that dough to cure under steer and improve handling? Just buy a drivers car FFS

What that guy does with his GTI is his business. Who cares about some American boy destroying the look of his GTI with some body kit anyway?

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