GTI Vs GTD

[thelairster]

Might want to look at this from top gear uk, has some info on suspension too... i.e it's not the GTI suspension.

Volkswagen Golf 6 GTD 3dr full road test car review - BBC Top Gear - BBC Top Gear

[Greg Roles]

Ive just traded from a mk5 GT TDI to a MK6 GTI and it really depends what you want from it

Performance wise the GTI has the edge if you like to drive it on the throttle whereas the GTD will be a bit more responsive low down for day to day driving.

The big factor in choosing is economy - I am down 300km per tank on my daily commute to work (80km freeway) average 8.3l/100 instead of 5.8l/100.

The noise is another, the GTI sounds awesome when you give it some beans, the TDI will always sound like a tractor.

Trim levels i believe in the GTI/GTD debate are a lot closer than they were for the mk5 but the GTI will have a few extra trim features.

Best bet is get out and drive them both. If i had known i was going to change jobs and put 6000km on my new GTI in the first 3 months id probably have gone another diesel. But then again, maybe the driving experience makes up for a little bit extra fuel.

Whatever you choose will be an enjoyable car.

Perfect post Steve, thanks for your real life input, pretty much closes the thread me thinks.

[Speed]

Perfect post Steve, thanks for your real life input, pretty much closes the thread me thinks.

But wait.. there's more!

Oh and the GTI has red brake calipers.

We all know that red goes faster!

Even though we didn't provide actuall statistics in terms of performance (quite a few shared their fuel consuption and handling experiences )
I hope that this has been of some use to you and wish you the best of luck in your decission - whatever it may be.

[alf13]

Well guys, I've done it.

Put my order in for a GTD, White, DSG, Leather, Reverse cam & MDI.

$45,000 on the road.

All I have to do now is wait and wait and wait........

[Tigger]

GTI vs GTD. what do you all think????!!!!

Hi all,

I'm sure this has been covered by some already, but I am interested in thoughts and opinions about which is the better car in the real world...GTI petrol vs GTD diesel.

I have read all of the car mag reveiws etc, but would like to know what the average guy like me feels about them. Has anyone compared them back to back, and made a purchase one way or the other?

Thanks

[SilvrFoxX]

Jan's wheels Magazine does a comparison.. the GTI comes up trumps

[team_v]

Depends what your driving situation is.
If you do a fair amount of long distance driving then i would go the GTD
If you do a lot of city/suburban driving then i would go the GTI.


Me personally i would take the GTD and get it tuned or go the DPF delete (questionable legality there i believe)

[Tigger]

Pardon my ignorance, but what is the DPF delete?

I do alot of kms, so that is why I thought of the GTD...wonder how much more economical it really is?

[team_v]

DPF delete is an upgrade offered by Custom Code where the DPF (Diesel particulate filter) is removed and a tune is provided which boosts power to around 170kw or so and a large jump in torque.

It is of questionable legality due to the emissions laws in place by the EPA.
It also voids the warranty.

If you do a lot of Km's (and not peak hour stop-start driving) out of the 2, i would pick the GTD.
However if the GT moniker is not essential i would wait until the Bluemotion is released later this year and get one of those as they are in the 4l/100km range i believe.

[AdamD]

Pardon my ignorance, but what is the DPF delete?

I do alot of kms, so that is why I thought of the GTD...wonder how much more economical it really is?

Read the January Wheels comparo - it has some good performance and fuel consumption comparisons.

Then go drive both. They do drive differently, and chances are you'll develop a preference for one over the other once you've experienced them personally.

Ref the DPF Delete - that's the removal of the diesel particulate (soot) filter. Good for reduced back pressure and better performance AFAIK.

[markwid]

Has anyone compared them back to back, and made a purchase one way or the other?

I did a back to back test drive, GTI and then GTD. For me, GTI won. It fits my needs more. I like that it is more responsive, also I don't do high mileage to get benefits of GTD.

[Tigger]

ok...thanks guys.

good info. I do indeed want the GT spec of car...so fuel consumption is not of as much of a concern to get me to the point of a Bluemotion..., However, I do alot of kms, so if the diesel shows a huge difference, then I will consider it for the next car....

But if the GTD is stilll a fun car, then this may suit me.

[Corey_R]

I would say that the "answer" to this thread will be much like the answer to the 118TSI vs 103TDI thread.

And that is, the best one is the one that suits you most

[triode12]

Is the GTD just the former GT TDI dressed up to look like the GTI (and priced to match)?

I drove one on the last VW track day and I wasn't impressed. It felt "soft" and lacking in excitement. Even the MKVI GTI (of which I'm not a fan) was better to drive than the GTD was.

[team_v]

Is the GTD just the former GT TDI dressed up to look like the GTI (and priced to match)?

I drove one on the last VW track day and I wasn't impressed. It felt "soft" and lacking in excitement. Even the MKVI GTI (of which I'm not a fan) was better to drive than the GTD was.

Essentially yes it is just a GT TDI dressed up as a GTI.
However it includes all of the extra safety features of the GTI such as XDL and other electronic aids.