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Golf 118 TSI Engine Failures and Service Campaign 24S4
The twincharger is a beautiful engine right up until the point it is a boat anchor. Us mere mortals don't have the stats to say what percentage of the vehicles fitted with this engine exploded? Was is 5%, 10% 50% 90%?? Given there has been no total recall I would have to assume it's on the lower end the scale making repairs a viable alternative.... but what do I actually know?
We are definitely getting to (if not at) the point where there will be no more freebies.
If it has an engine or heartbeat it's going to cost you.
Agree the manufacturer is only responsible for so long.
I think even ACCC would have a hard time with this.
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Don't get me worng, for a normal car I would quite agree. The problem here is these engines should have had a full recall and VW should have taken the hit to put them right, not us the owners. That should have happened as soon as the issues showed up.
The twincharger is a beautiful engine right up until the point it is a boat anchor. Us mere mortals don't have the stats to say what percentage of the vehicles fitted with this engine exploded? Was is 5%, 10% 50% 90%?? Given there has been no total recall I would have to assume it's on the lower end the scale making repairs a viable alternative.... but what do I actually know?
We are definitely getting to (if not at) the point where there will be no more freebies.
Hearsay.... But my mechanic reckons he's seen 25 die in the last year.
Why? What insanity would lead anyone to purchase that drivetrain? Did you buy first, research later?
Pretty much. I previously had a 08 GTI so I trusted on reputation and a quick look indicated the problems were with earlier models. I wasn't in a situation where I could sit around without a car and this was the best option available in my budget (I believed).
To be fair I haven't had any issues with it yet and quite enjoy it. Yes if a manual was available I would have had it but that was what I had at the time.
Sell it immediately! They can go at any time. Ours was purring like a kitty cat and suddenly went. Wasn't a slow deterioration.
Not really in a financial position to do that after having just bought it. Taking it to VW tomorrow to get the pressure accumulator thingo checked and will see what other recalls they can do there and if they would be willing to do a trade in or something.
I'm most likely abandoning my plans to do even very limited mods such as GFB DV+ and a tune to try to increase its lifespan.
Not really in a financial position to do that after having just bought it. Taking it to VW tomorrow to get the pressure accumulator thingo checked and will see what other recalls they can do there and if they would be willing to do a trade in or something.
I'm most likely abandoning my plans to do even very limited mods such as GFB DV+ and a tune to try to increase its lifespan.
A tune is a good idea on these engines as it makes them run richer and therefore cooler with less detonation, but who knows how much damage is already done with x amount of years being driven by someone else. A tune may well end up being nothing more than a waste of your hard earned cash.
If the car is a DSG then do yourself a favour and drive it in manual mode as much as possible so that you control the gearchanges and you can avoid the engine from labouring (which when left in normal auto mode it shifts up far too quickly and leaves the engine labouring which causes detonation and unnecessary load on the engine at very low RPM which isn't good and engine). Controlling the gears yourself allows you to keep the engine in its desired RPM range (eg 2,000-4,500rpm) where it can spin freely and make good power and torque without over stressing itself. You will use a bit more fuel driving it in this manner but its much better for the engine and your wallet in the long run.
A tune is a good idea on these engines as it makes them run richer and therefore cooler with less detonation, but who knows how much damage is already done with x amount of years being driven by someone else. A tune may well end up being nothing more than a waste of your hard earned cash.
If the car is a DSG then do yourself a favour and drive it in manual mode as much as possible so that you control the gearchanges and you can avoid the engine from labouring (which when left in normal auto mode it shifts up far too quickly and leaves the engine labouring which causes detonation and unnecessary load on the engine at very low RPM which isn't good and engine). Controlling the gears yourself allows you to keep the engine in its desired RPM range (eg 2,000-4,500rpm) where it can spin freely and make good power and torque without over stressing itself. You will use a bit more fuel driving it in this manner but its much better for the engine and your wallet in the long run.
Yeah I normally do use manual mode as quite frankly I have always had manuals and like them, the computer seems really weird and wants to use 7th going uphill at 70kph, but in sport mode holds gears too long (imo) and I don't want to risk anything breaking at high rpm. Right now I wouldn't have the $1200ish for a tune anyway but it is a good point if it can definitely help extend its life, just don't want to drop the money and then it all blows up. Really regretting my purchase at this time and have a pit in my stomach the more I read about it.
Yeah I normally do use manual mode as quite frankly I have always had manuals and like them, the computer seems really weird and wants to use 7th going uphill at 70kph, but in sport mode holds gears too long (imo) and I don't want to risk anything breaking at high rpm. Right now I wouldn't have the $1200ish for a tune anyway but it is a good point if it can definitely help extend its life, just don't want to drop the money and then it all blows up. Really regretting my purchase at this time and have a pit in my stomach the more I read about it.
You just have to make the most of it for now. Use 98 fuel, drive in manual mode, keep the oil fresh will good quality VW504/507 spec oil etc. And as you mentioned, have VW look over it and see if any outstanding recalls can be done.
And yes, normal D mode for the DSG is silly (eg 70kph in 7th gear) and I agree sport mode is also stupid. A DSG tune makes normal D mode less docile and sport mode less hectic.
In Melb, if you want to pursue a tune, go see Alex from Underground Performance. I know some tuners wont tune the 118TSI anymore due to their reliability issues and the blame going to the tuner, but some still will. Not sure if Underground will but have a chat to them. They do sales every now and then for 10-15% off so that brings the price to <$1,000.
Are these a similar engine to the MkV GT Sport? 125KW twin-charged?
Mine has 155K on it and still drives well. I asked about a DSG and/or ECU tune and was told not to touch it. They are too fickle and closely integrated.
Are these a similar engine to the MkV GT Sport? 125KW twin-charged?
Mine has 155K on it and still drives well. I asked about a DSG and/or ECU tune and was told not to touch it. They are too fickle and closely integrated.
Same engine but in the Mk5 they are much more reliable. When they were put in the Mk6 (and Polo GTI) they were tuned to run very lean (use less fuel) which makes them run very hot, and the pistons were bad quality - eventually the pistons will crack or burn a hole in a piston which requires a rebuild.
Use 98 octane fuel (good quality from BP or Shell etc - not no-name service stations), keep the oil fresh and you should be ok.
Regarding the tune, most places wont tune these anymore due to the reliability issues. The DSG in the Mk6 is equally as bad (7 speed dry clutch), but im not sure if the Mk5 GT had this same version of the DSG.
Same engine but in the Mk5 they are much more reliable. When they were put in the Mk6 (and Polo GTI) they were tuned to run very lean (use less fuel) which makes them run very hot, and the pistons were bad quality - eventually the pistons will crack or burn a hole in a piston which requires a rebuild.
Use 98 octane fuel (good quality from BP or Shell etc - not no-name service stations), keep the oil fresh and you should be ok.
Regarding the tune, most places wont tune these anymore due to the reliability issues. The DSG in the Mk6 is equally as bad (7 speed dry clutch), but im not sure if the Mk5 GT had this same version of the DSG.
You’re right about the fuel quality. We use only BP in our 118TSI. The engine oil and filter gets changed every 6 month and I always put 2.9L of oil with 0.7L of Morey’s Oil Stabiliser. So far so good. The Golf is 9years old now.
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