Do you actually use the DSG, or is it always in automatic mode?

[Ryan_R]

What's wrong with driving the DSG in manual mode?

[Candyman]

I hate to say this, but if you have issues with how the DSG responds, torque curve & whatever...why didn't you buy a manual????

Enough said, rant over ... back into my box

Personally, because I love the flexibility it offers, the enjoyment it returns and the tech

It isn't perfect, far from it, but I've stuck with it for reasons mentioned

I've driven manual of all kinds for more than 40 years. I am more than happy to live with the failings of the DSG to be released from the familiarity I have with a clutch pedal

Oh and I have a manual that just happens to also be an auto :p

Haven't we all seen this discussion many times before

[phantomcamel]

I think one thing many people also don't realize that the DSG "learns" your driving style/behavior, so if someone else drives the car it takes a good 15 minutes for the system to learn your drive style. So if your grandma has been driving the car, it will feel weird for some time 'til the system adjusts.
This is a huge "downfall" for DEMO cars, as they generally been driven timidly around the block...

[Njay]

Oh and I have a manual that just happens to also be an auto :p

In my opinion you cant compare dsg to traditional manual box, any fool can drive dsg but not everyone can drive a manual

when i drive my parents car (a5 3.0tdi stage 1) I keep it in S, find manual annoying and D not to exciting and S mode being the most fun

[Candyman]

Please don't turn this into that old discussion of which is better. It's off topic, invalid and subjective



You will notice my use of and

Apart from that, the DSG is all things to all men.

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I think one thing many people also don't realize that the DSG "learns" your driving style/behavior, so if someone else drives the car it takes a good 15 minutes for the system to learn your drive style. So if your grandma has been driving the car, it will feel weird for some time 'til the system adjusts.
This is a huge "downfall" for DEMO cars, as they generally been driven timidly around the block...

Ah, but making it "unlearn it" is so much fun.

I assume you are being sarcastic about DEMO cars as the opposite applies in my experience (dealers usually encourage heavy use of the right foot IMO)

[DoggieHowser]

Yes Tsuchiya is a fool because he couldn't keep up with a DSG when the MkV GTI was first released.

[SilvrFoxX]

It really comes down to personal preference - I you are a driver who wants to be fully "in charge", listening to the gears/engine and change when it suits YOU - go manual, otherwise enjoy the best AUTO transmission available right now - the DSG gear box!

Damn straight, no complaints from me, love how smooth it is

I think one thing many people also don't realize that the DSG "learns" your driving style/behavior, so if someone else drives the car it takes a good 15 minutes for the system to learn your drive style. So if your grandma has been driving the car, it will feel weird for some time 'til the system adjusts.
This is a huge "downfall" for DEMO cars, as they generally been driven timidly around the block...

I am with CM on this one, what R has been driven around the block timidly? the real issue is the car has been driven for short trips at various operating temps constantly.. not good for any car

[ParaBul]

My DSG is normally in manual mode, because I don't like the auto's choice of gears - to me, it changes up too early, and routinely selects too high a gear. The few times I've used S mode, it hangs on to each gear too long, well past peak power.

I use auto occasionally, like car parks, and notice a difference in change quality.

Around town, in the traffic light grand prix, with the GTD's combination of high torque and low redline, gear changes are frequent. The DSG gear change is much faster and easier than a traditional manual.

I'm happy with what I've got.

[Ryan_R]

I think one thing many people also don't realize that the DSG "learns" your driving style/behavior,
This is a huge "downfall" for DEMO cars, as they generally been driven timidly around the block...

No, it's a huge downfall for all the cars. Constantly adapting to how I drive the car (while I'm constantly adapting to traffic around me) makes for an annoying and sometimes unpredictable experience.

One example is a roundabout on a steep hill near where I live. Sometimes the car doesn't want to go at all because it's shifted up too early/too high, and won't kick down (after responding by giving about 90% throttle, I know about the switch at the end but rarely use that). Other times it holds the gear and revs, and on other times it spins the wheels and flies up. I hope the Mk7 has a constant setting (or 2 or 3 set options to choose from). Sport mode (DSG) is not a solution for metropolitan driving.

[Candyman]

No, it's a huge downfall for all the cars. Constantly adapting to how I drive the car (while I'm constantly adapting to traffic around me) makes for an annoying and sometimes unpredictable experience.

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Perhaps for you, not having any such issue with the R. The MKV GTI we had was pretty good too. It isn't an instant adaptation - it takes a relatively long time for the mechatronics unit to adjust the take off point and change solenoid values.

Go and get the DSG reset and whilst at the dealer, make sure there isnt a software update for it. Ask them to check for error codes, it may well be you need a new mech unit.

Every car made with an ECU constantly adapts - there for a reason

[Ryan_R]

I've gone to a dealer 2 or 3 times asking them to do that, and each time they make up some excuse for not doing it.

[Candyman]

I've gone to a dealer 2 or 3 times asking them to do that, and each time they make up some excuse for not doing it.

Use a different dealer

If you are in Sydney send me a pm. I am 100% certain my service manager will do it for you

[Ryan_R]

I'm not in Sydney. Burwin VW is supposed to be dealer of the year 3 times in a row, and isn't even my closest one. New dealer opened near by last year but the guys there are not pleasant to deal with at all. When I was looking at VW before purchasing I was at Barloworld at Glen Waverly and the guy there was even worse. I'm a VW fan because of their cars, an perhaps the sales and service guys are too, but sometimes they come across as arrogant, which is a shame. Not sure if anyone else has observed that or not. At least Mark at Burwin is a nice person to deal with.

[Candyman]

I'm not in Sydney. Burwin VW is supposed to be dealer of the year 3 times in a row, and isn't even my closest one. New dealer opened near by last year but the guys there are not pleasant to deal with at all. When I was looking at VW before purchasing I was at Barloworld at Glen Waverly and the guy there was even worse. I'm a VW fan because of their cars, an perhaps the sales and service guys are too, but sometimes they come across as arrogant, which is a shame. Not sure if anyone else has observed that or not. At least Mark at Burwin is a nice person to deal with.

Get in touch with Robbo at TigerSoft and tell him Candyman sent you.

Whilst he is a Viezu dealer, he may well be able to offer you a solution. I'll be down your way very soon

[AdamD]

I'm not in Sydney...

You could also try a VW specialist, such as your APR dealer? If they have the knowledge and tools to service a DSG, they should be able to reset the DSG for you.