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  • #46
    Thanks Coreying,
    I hear ya about the timing, and I was suggesting it more as a response to needing two clutch pedals. not too much as a serious option (though you never know what you will see).

    I have read (I think on this forum) about the Scirocco having a DSG also that did not auto shift in S and manual and this was why I was asking, however Ill have to go back and dig it up and recheck it, I looked a while ago about the DSG well before the new Polo was coming up.

    I will defiantly test drive the new Polo once available, however I am very happy with the current one for now! Just always interested in the way things work. I guess this is one of simple differences between a sequential manual or a 'DSG' style box.

    Very interesting stuff anyway! Thankyou for the info!!

    Cheers
    DCN

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    • #47
      after few days in my new GTI got only one thing to say about DSG.... its fantastic in auto but in manual really dont see much use for it unless u want buttons to push...
      big thing about downshifting (in other cars that I drove in a last few years) that u can slow down without breaking .... GTI just goes in higher revs without any issues and a bit more sound to it ... cant really say that Im disappointed and maybe it will grow on me but thats just how it is in my opinion
      His: Golf6 5door GTI DSG Carbon Sunroof MDI and 18" Drag rims + sticker that gives extra horse power
      Hers: Skoda Kodiaq Tech/Lux pack and sunroof

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      • #48
        Old car saying, gears are for go, brakes are for slow. If you don't believe me, get a quote on how much a clutch versus a brake pad replacement costs.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by hooba View Post
          Old car saying, gears are for go, brakes are for slow. If you don't believe me, get a quote on how much a clutch versus a brake pad replacement costs.
          There are two different things here that people often confuse.

          1 . Slowing down for a corner or traffic lights. Here it makes a lot of sense to use the brakes rather than trying to use the clutch or torque converter as a brake.

          2. Holding speed down a steep hill. Here, it makes more sense to shift to a lower gear and allow the engine braking to stop you from speeding up (with the clutch fully engaged, i.e. not slipping). If you use the brakes continuously instead, they will heat up and on older cars or a long descent, may stop working before you get to the bottom. In extreme cases you can warp or crack the discs.

          There is no wear caused to the engine because the load is a small fraction of what it sees when you accelerate. Oil continues to circulate and there is no harm done at all. There is no wear caused to the clutch (manual or DSG) because apart from actual gear changes it is fully engaged, unless you are terrible at downchanges.

          So yes, actively slowing down - use brakes and match gears only, don't brake using the clutch. Holding speed on a descent - use a lower gear and avoid riding the brakes. A lot of modern automatics will do this for you if they sense excessive brake usage (eg, Mitsubishi, Honda, others).

          There is a good reason why steep descents will have a sign that says "trucks must use low gear". IT's a good idea in a car too, manual or auto
          MY12 VW Golf 90TSI DSG, MDI, Towbar

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          • #50
            30% manual control, 70% fully let it do its own thing. I do however put the selector into N if I am stuck in peak hour traffic. Take it out of D, S or M+- for the time I am sitting in queues which is a lot in Sydney. Also even in D or S I tend to drive it like manual just without a clutch pedal so I work the accelerator through the revs in each gear and use throttle position to prompt gear changes as much as possible.

            Its a great box - I do miss manual but the downshift farts from the exhaust, especially in S are great the hear.
            Golf 7R | 5 Door | Limestone Grey | DSG | Sunroof | Leather | Driver Assist | Tint | Formerly GTi11.5

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            • #51
              Around town / traffic, I let it do its own thing. I hardly ever use S unless I need to get away quick from the lights. The DSG is a bit smarter than me at selecting the right gear to suit a myriad of variables, although it is nice when I get it right in M mode.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by GTi11.5 View Post
                I do however put the selector into N if I am stuck in peak hour traffic. Take it out of D, S or M+- for the time I am sitting in queues which is a lot in Sydney.
                I've read (but haven't had confirmed) that VW don't recommend this behaviour because by putting the gearbox in neutral, it's not circulating oil and cooling the gearbox and clutches as it otherwise would. I'm not suggesting that's correct, but in the absence of definitive evidence to the contrary, best to be aware of it.
                2008 MkV Volkswagen Golf R32 DSG
                2005 MkV Volkswagen Golf 2.0 FSI Auto
                Sold: 2015 8V Audi S3 Sedan Manual
                Sold: 2010 MkVI Volkswagen Golf GTI DSG

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                • #53
                  Car is pretty much in S mode all the time (appears to be much more well behaved than it was in our GTI, where it was a maniac).

                  D mode in really really heavy traffic and if I use it other times, I mix it up with the paddles.

                  Manual mode rarely these days. If I was only using manual mode, I would not have bought a DSG.
                  Last edited by Candyman; 05-04-2012, 05:27 PM.
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                  • #54
                    99% Auto

                    Occasionally I blip it up and down

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                    • #55
                      100% of the time in manual mode for me.
                      Golf R, Rising Blue, 5 Door, DSG and some extra fruit.
                      Viagra on 4 wheels !!

                      "If you can't fix it with a hammer then it must be an electrical problem"

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                      • #56
                        Yup. With above. Manual almost all the time.
                        Scirocco R - Candy White / DSG / Panoramic Roof / RNS510
                        Mods - HPA ECU & DSG Stage 2 / VWR Racing Intake / Akrapovic Slip-On Titanium Tips / Milltek DP / HPA Mounts / Superpro LCA / H&R Sport Springs / VMR V710 19x8.5 / Michelin PSS 255-35

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Rob_R View Post
                          100% of the time in manual mode for me.
                          Should have bought a manual then
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Candyman View Post
                            Should have bought a manual then
                            It is a manual...... they just forgot to put the third pedal in !!
                            Golf R, Rising Blue, 5 Door, DSG and some extra fruit.
                            Viagra on 4 wheels !!

                            "If you can't fix it with a hammer then it must be an electrical problem"

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Rob_R View Post
                              It is a manual...... they just forgot to put the third pedal in !!
                              Gee, first thing after Easter, get that car into VW - you have a lemon
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Candyman View Post
                                Gee, first thing after Easter, get that car into VW - you have a lemon
                                Hahahahaha!!!!! Imagine their faces if I drop by with that complaint.
                                Golf R, Rising Blue, 5 Door, DSG and some extra fruit.
                                Viagra on 4 wheels !!

                                "If you can't fix it with a hammer then it must be an electrical problem"

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