B Pillar clicking / ticking & door rubber / seal creaking / squeaking

[Corey_R]

There is flex is all chassis in every car ever made. The reason you get door seal squeaks in some cars is due to the type of rubber used, and friction with products used to clean / polish / wax the car. Yes, the advice in this thread works. No, you're not just "covering up" a problem...

[Maverick]

hi all

my 2008 Golf V 3-door GTI is making the rubber squeak noises when I turn into inclined driveways at low speed.

The car was just serviced at VW last week, but the problem is still there.

Does the lubricating of the rubber seals help? If so, is it just 'covering up' the actual problem of why the doors are moving at all?

I've never had this problem on previous cars, including 2-door cars...

S

Every car flexes to varying degrees, the Mark V and the Mark VI chassis is increadibly strong and rigid.

A 3 door will generally flex more as you one single opening taking up 2/3rds of the passanger comparement compared to a 5 door with two openenings each taking up half the passanger compartment.

The difference is that you have some rubbish on the rubber seals and/or the paint that it touches hence why it makes some noise.

[Ryan_R]

I've heard a bit of a noise from around the left a-pillar trim area that's more noticeable when going over little bumps in the road. Haven't had a chance to pinpoint the exact location.

[gtimal]

Excuse me for saying how it is, too many people have unrealistic expectations and expect everything for nothing. Look at all the complaints in this forum about the most ridiculous things, how everyone expects the dealers to bend over backwards as if they're the only customer they have, how they expect the dealer service staff to fix a problem when the customer can't even take the time to demonstrate or clearly explain it or how they expect a $25K car to be 100% noise free or worse expect their $50K car (which is the $25K car with sports suspension and 18" wheels) to make no noises or rattles when driving above third world country roads.

ps. this may lighten the tone of the post......

Dealers shouldn't have to fix these problems ,they need to be fix on the production line .I can't find where I ticked the option for the loose untightened heater box .Which is still vibrating and I didn't asked for the dealer to damage the cast alloy vent ,which they didn't tell me about when I picked the car up ,what they didn't think I would notice how they removed it with a flat blade screw driver .What they couldn't see one side of the vent sitting flush with the dash and the other side bowed out .

No doudt they will fix the problems when it goes back , I'm glad I optioned the active damper control so I can atleast adjust the rattle noise levels .

Some else I know hows the same rattles in the same place's .

Just incase you bring up Lexus again ,my 6 year old Maxima 177K on the clock doesn't have rattles .

Cheers

[ConR]

Got my car back from getting a few things fixed up.

Clicking noise - according to the dealer, there is a TSB for it. I don't know what the number is. Issue occurs in warmer temperatures when it's sunny. Apparently, it only affects the front doors. It has something to do with the door lock mechanism, and nothing to do with the b pillar trim.

Creaking - technician said there is no real fix for it. He said it stems from the rubber seal that VW has chosen for the MK6. It's different from what was on the MK5. Although what coreying has been saying about cleaning the door jams and not polishing them will work (eventually), the quick fix is to use silicone (i.e. Krytox) on the felt strips at the top of each door (the felt that makes contact with the metal frame). Tech said there is no harm in doing so, and it's also the only way they know how to really stop the creaking. Whether this will harm the felt, I have no clue. Have to trust your dealer I guess. No creaks driving in to work this morning.

As for the rattles I wanted fixed...they're still present...

[Maverick]

Creaking - technician said there is no real fix for it. He said it stems from the rubber seal that VW has chosen for the MK6. It's different from what was on the MK5. Although what coreying has been saying about cleaning the door jams and not polishing them will work (eventually), the quick fix is to use silicone (i.e. Krytox) on the felt strips at the top of each door (the felt that makes contact with the metal frame). Tech said there is no harm in doing so, and it's also the only way they know how to really stop the creaking. Whether this will harm the felt, I have no clue. Have to trust your dealer I guess. No creaks driving in to work this morning.

Silicone has nothing to do with Krytox, they are completely seperate products and using silicone on the seals will damage them (depending on the type of silicone) and make the problem worse. Krytox is available as a pure liquid which is easiest to use on rubber seals or as a grease which has PTFE (Teflon) flakes added to give it's the thicker consistency and lower the cost. The felt should not require any treatment, it's the rubber on the door and door frame that makes the noise. Removing any waxes etc from the door frame where the felt touches should ensure the felt is silent.

[ConR]

whatever it is or was, the tech said they use silicone on the actual felt itself to cure the creaking...it's also solved the issue for me, as cleaning the door frame and applying krytox to the rubber seals did not solve the issues.

[G-rig]

I've noticed the B-pillar clicks even when the car isn't moving (just idling) must be when the heat is on it. Pretty annoying.

I wonder if the TSB is as good as the rear washer drips where it doesn't fix anything..

The rubbers squark as well, and that's without waxing the car. They did the same thing on the MK5..

[vwsp]

I would like to thank "fryad" for recommending "Gummi Pflege (from WaxIt, Melb)" in a previous post to this thread (page 3). I bought some last week and it has fixed the last remaining door rubber creaks on my car. Actually, when you use it, remember to apply it to the rubber strip that runs along the forward edge of the back door ... you know the one that runs the full height of the car and that the front door closes on to. That was the last little sucker that was squeaking until I "gummi pfleged" it!! Yes, it sounds quite disgusting but it isn't, it's a godsend!

[blanch0b]

i wonder how many people who have a golf actually have this problem (as a percentage)... there are no squeaks, ticking, clicking or any sounds on my GTI (other than the sweet sound of that brilliant engine revving and popping) but there seems to be alot of feedback especially on the 118TSI's.........

[ConR]

I think that would be the percentage of picky vs. non-picky owners =)

coreying, can you conduct polls on this forum?

[G-rig]

... there are no squeaks, ticking, clicking or any sounds on my GTI.

Give it time..

[anthony]

i wonder how many people who have a golf actually have this problem (as a percentage)... there are no squeaks, ticking, clicking or any sounds on my GTI (other than the sweet sound of that brilliant engine revving and popping) but there seems to be alot of feedback especially on the 118TSI's.........

You are probably the only one...lol.

[Corey_R]

coreying, can you conduct polls on this forum?

Polls can be conducted yes, but as far as I can tell, it can only be achieved at the time of starting a new thread.

[Ryan_R]

VB lets you add polls after threads are made if you have the right permissions (I'm a mod on another forum and can do it). You could ask one of the super mods or admins I guess.