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  • #16
    Originally posted by elisiX View Post
    Hmm .. mixed thoughts on this thread.

    Against: Allegiance - you've been pretty bloody annoying to say the least by starting 10 new threads in a week (give or take) about topics that have already been discussed at length. And as I see it, this is part of your problem at this point. You've conducted just about no research before putting the money down. Now you're suffering buyers remorse. No harm in asking mate, but I just dont see how you will pull this one off. The flip-side however....

    For: Reason I say mixed thoughts is because I went back to my dealer and pushed after signing. HOWEVER.. I was within 24 hours of signing and I simply stated that deals being quoted online were $1500-1800 better than my own and i'd like them to evaluate the deal and come back to me with something. I left it with them to decide if it would be a further discount or added option. I chose to add the MDI cable and Park Assist ($1600 value approx.).
    Not really buyers remorse, rather just trying to get the most I can.

    Whilst I do appreciate what you are saying, usually if I post a response in a thread that has 9 pages, it's quite common for a post to get ignored/overlooked. If a new thread is started, everyone reads the first post, regardless of there thoughts in the thread. Hence my reason for starting new threads.

    I have appreciated everyones help with the threads I have created.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Allegiance View Post
      If a new thread is started, everyone reads the first post, regardless of there thoughts in the thread. Hence my reason for starting new threads.
      This is not true, as the majority of regular posters will use the "New Posts" button at the top of the page to only the updated posts, this is why some go on to 30 or 40 pages.

      You will be more likely to get an answer if you have found a similar thread and reopened it that starting a new one.
      currrently... MY10 GTI | DSG | Candy White | Sunroof | 18's | BT | MDI
      previously... MY08 GT TDI | DSG | Reflex Silver | Sunroof

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      • #18
        Man!! Your asking for way too much. Good luck getting all that for free!
        MY20 Golf GTI TCR
        MY20.5 LR Defender P400 HSE

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        • #19
          I'm all for getting a good deal out of a Car Dealer , but a Deal is a Deal.

          I like the ability to look the Dealer in the eyes and get some positive action in the event of a warranty issue.
          Ex- 2010 Golf GTI
          Ex - 2015 Skoda Yeti
          Soon - 2016 Tiguan

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          • #20
            Your price does seem pretty good as it is. I got 3 door, DSG, standard seats, cheap bluetooth, tinted windows and personalised plates for about $47,000 or $48,000, I forget now once the plates were added. So for you to get sunroof and 5 door for $46,000 sounds quite OK to me.

            Maybe ask for a free cap, but to expect now to have tinting thrown in, no way.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Dermot View Post
              It used to be the case that a man's word was all that was needed. A gentleman’s handshake was rock solid.

              From what I read above even a signed contract is not honourable for some people
              I agree, and even find the title of this thread rather obnoxious. Driving a hard bargain is one thing, but "screwing the dealer" is another. Would anyone think highly of dealers running a thread about how they "screwed" the customer? I doubt anyone is putting a gun to anyone else's head and saying "Sign here".

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              • #22
                If the dealer called you after you signed the contract and asked if they could up the price on your car by 2k what would you say??

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                • #23
                  Dealer bluetooth and tint is crap, get those later...

                  Corporate discount helps, but you shoudl be happy you're buying in Melbourne as there aren't many discounts going up here.

                  Anyway hope you don't get a better deal if you are only out to screw them over (I'd tell you to shove it).

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                  • #24
                    Unfortunately, most dealers you tell the price of another after you sign the contract will ALWAYS say they could have beat it. But when push comes to shove, they probably won't.



                    Originally posted by Allegiance View Post
                    I did get a call from another dealer yesterday who I was talking to over the weekend that said they could have beaten that driveaway price by "at least $1,500". However since I had paid a deposit it was to late.

                    Could I use this as leverage?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Flighter View Post
                      I agree, and even find the title of this thread rather obnoxious. Driving a hard bargain is one thing, but "screwing the dealer" is another. Would anyone think highly of dealers running a thread about how they "screwed" the customer? I doubt anyone is putting a gun to anyone else's head and saying "Sign here".
                      Originally posted by G-rig View Post
                      Dealer bluetooth and tint is crap, get those later...

                      Corporate discount helps, but you shoudl be happy you're buying in Melbourne as there aren't many discounts going up here.

                      Anyway hope you don't get a better deal if you are only out to screw them over (I'd tell you to shove it).
                      Oh that's right, dealers aren't at all out to screw the customer. I mean it's not like we have to sit in a dealership uncomfortably bargaining them down for an hour to try to get a fair price on the purchase of a new car. I mean dealer's being so fair and all should give you there honest best price at the very beginning.

                      But no I am just an "obnoxious" customer. That's why when I walk into one VW dealership they give me $12k for my car, the second one I walk into they give me $14k. It's because they are all fair and don't at all try to take advantage (i.e. 'screw') the customer.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by JLR View Post
                        Unfortunately, most dealers you tell the price of another after you sign the contract will ALWAYS say they could have beat it. But when push comes to shove, they probably won't.
                        Thank you for providing something constructive to this thread rather than some of the other posters.
                        2020 VW Golf R

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                        • #27
                          I'm glad dealers don't have kids, mortgages, hospital bills, food bills and all of the other trappings we are burdened with.

                          I'm glad they can afford to pay huge rentals on their showrooms, payments on their stock and repair costs for flogged demo's out of the goodness of their hearts.

                          And I'm glad that they can bend over backwards to give someone a sharp deal to sell a car and grab their meagre commission to blow on whatever dealers spend their pittance on.

                          And I'm glad I negotiated a deal that left both of us in a good mood and didn't leave the dealer with the thought of "here comes that prick again" every time I go into the dealership.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by jimmyjames View Post
                            I'm glad dealers don't have kids, mortgages, hospital bills, food bills and all of the other trappings we are burdened with.

                            I'm glad they can afford to pay huge rentals on their showrooms, payments on their stock and repair costs for flogged demo's out of the goodness of their hearts.

                            And I'm glad that they can bend over backwards to give someone a sharp deal to sell a car and grab their meagre commission to blow on whatever dealers spend their pittance on.

                            And I'm glad I negotiated a deal that left both of us in a good mood and didn't leave the dealer with the thought of "here comes that prick again" every time I go into the dealership.
                            So you will happily pay more for a car just because you want to be nice to the dealer?
                            2020 VW Golf R

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                            • #29
                              I guess there are ways to conduct yourself and 'bargain' the dealer instead of take any profit they may make.

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                              • #30
                                Well if that's what you want to do good luck to all of you.
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