Best way to screw the dealer post deposit

[Spook]

Unfortunately, most dealers you tell the price of another after you sign the contract will ALWAYS say they could have beat it. But when push comes to shove, they probably won't.

Reminds me of this article I read on carbroker.com.au
See under Spraying: Also known as "throwing a hand grenade". Dealers will pursue a potential customer until he buys. If the client ends up buying from a different dealer, the sales person that missed out on the deal rings you to get the bad news. When you tell him you bought elsewhere (at a very good price of $35,000) he says: "I sure hope you didn't pay more than $33,000 for it!". This is designed to make the customer feel as bad as the salesman. It also highlights just how nasty some people can be.

The rest of an article is an interesting read too.

[G-rig]

All I was saying is no need to be a **** about it.

[elisiX]

Mate I am not for a second discounting the fact that dealers and salespeople in general are dodgy - they can be.

However the point here is that you have made a decision!... and you are now suggesting that they still 'owe' you something.

They do not.

[Corey_R]

+1 to elisiX.

I generally find this thread offensive. Not all dealers are scum, many a quite helpful, including the several that frequent this site. I think that Allegiance has only done a disservice to himself by starting such a silly thread.

[G-rig]

Give the OP a break he's probably 19 and doesn't know any better.

[240z]

I've been shopping around for a gti and not just in vic and so far a couple of them have been extremely polite even though they haven't got my business, Dave at central coast vw is one

[Allegiance]

Mate I am not for a second discounting the fact that dealers and salespeople in general are dodgy - they can be.

However the point here is that you have made a decision!... and you are now suggesting that they still 'owe' you something.

They do not.

+1 to elisiX.

I generally find this thread offensive. Not all dealers are scum, many a quite helpful, including the several that frequent this site. I think that Allegiance has only done a disservice to himself by starting such a silly thread.

Did I say that they still 'owed' me something? No

Did I say that all dealers are scum? No

Stop focusing on that fact that my topic has the words "screw" and "dealer" in it.

This is what my original post said:

Hi Guys,

Now I know this has been discussed to varying degrees in other topics.

I have already put down the deposit on my GTI, the deal I got was:

GTI, 5 Door, Black, Sunroof, DSG for $46,000 drive away (car is clearing customs so 2 weeks roughly away).

I would really like a window tint (darkest legal) for free.

Also, I can't seem to find it in the spec sheet, but I believe there may be a basic bluetooth kit available as well? Ideally I would like this thrown in as well.

Now at this point it is pretty difficult, but what are some strategies you have used to get more from a dealer post deposit?

Thanks!

People have asked similar questions in other topics!

[G-rig]

Stop focusing on that fact that my topic has the words "screw" and "dealer" in it.

Best way to screw the dealer post deposit

[VW Convert]

I'm glad dealers don't have kids, mortgages, hospital bills, food bills and all of the other trappings we are burdened with.

I'm glad they can afford to pay huge rentals on their showrooms, payments on their stock and repair costs for flogged demo's out of the goodness of their hearts.

And I'm glad that they can bend over backwards to give someone a sharp deal to sell a car and grab their meagre commission to blow on whatever dealers spend their pittance on.

And I'm glad I negotiated a deal that left both of us in a good mood and didn't leave the dealer with the thought of "here comes that prick again" every time I go into the dealership.

Excellent post jimmyjames, I concur 100%.

Dealers are an important link in the chain that provides us with new cars, some do it better than others and often there can be a love hate relationship between customers and dealers.

I have never set out to "screw" a dealer on the purchase of a new car, but that does not mean I do not set out to get the best deal I can. My profession involves being responsible for purchasing and each year, I spend many millions of my employers dollars. The basis on which I have done that is to ensure that the deal is good for both customer and seller, after all, if the seller makes nothing from the deal, they probably won't be there next time I require their goods. It all boils down to building a long term relationship and when I shake hands on a deal, the negotiation ceases, full stop.

I have to say that the whole tenor of this thread is contrary to the aims of this forum which was set up for VW enthusiasts to discuss their cars rather than how to screw a dealer. I'm thinking we have somewhat lost our way.

My 2 cents, take it or leave it.

Cheers

George

[MariusGT]

I recently read on a thread about gt/gt sports within this site: someone had put down a deposit with a private seller.

They had agreed on a price- a deposit was laid down.

The seller then showed the car to another prospective buyer (I assume) and buyer #2 offered more.

Seller sold to 2nd buyer in spite of the deposit and agreement with 1st buyer.

Dealers as a whole are not perfect, neither are private sellers.
And by the title of this thread- buyers are no angels!!!

[G-rig]

^ That's also a **** act, they should have refunded the deposit to buyer #1.

[Maverick]

Did I say that they still 'owed' me something? No

Did I say that all dealers are scum? No

Stop focusing on that fact that my topic has the words "screw" and "dealer" in it.

What did you mean to say other than "screw" the "dealer" than?

People have asked similar questions in other topics!

And the answer has always been the same. What makes you think the dealer owes you anything or is willing to cut their margin because you didn't know what you wanted when you went in to purchase the car?

Suck it up and move on, the dealer isn't going to give you anything and asking is just going to guarantee you poor service from now on including your car being the last prepared for delivery.

[Maverick]

^ That's also a **** act, they should have refunded the deposit to buyer #1.

They did..

[Flighter]

Oh that's right, dealers aren't at all out to screw the customer. I mean it's not like we have to sit in a dealership uncomfortably bargaining them down for an hour to try to get a fair price on the purchase of a new car. I mean dealer's being so fair and all should give you there honest best price at the very beginning.

But no I am just an "obnoxious" customer. That's why when I walk into one VW dealership they give me $12k for my car, the second one I walk into they give me $14k. It's because they are all fair and don't at all try to take advantage (i.e. 'screw') the customer.

I said that I found the thread title "rather obnoxious" (and it seems I'm not the only one); nothing about you being an obnoxious customer. And for what it's worth, the best price I got was received after I sent an anonymous email to the dealer, rather like you sarcastically say at the end of your first paragraph above. The dealer was straight up with me from the start, the whole purchase was wrapped up in about 15 minutes, and I've since enthusiastically recommended him to others as a result. A few months have passed since then, and the RRP price of the car has dropped by $1000, but I don't feel "screwed" as a result.

[G-rig]

They did..

That's good, it sounded like they didn't by that statement but understand the buyer would still be disappointed.