Golf GTD

[pologti18t]

Where are the government lead incentives to go diesel (green), ie lower rego , higher tax deductions for business users etc. Europe is so far ahead of Australia in offering these type of incentives.

How is diesel "green"? Generally a diesel car will produce more noxious exhaust fumes (particulates, NOX) than a petrol car. They are the important pollutants in major cities. Forget the C02 rubbish.

[X-Rated]

Yeah why wouldn't you get a GTI then.

Because not everyone wants to hunt for 98RON petrol!

A

[Lima]

Where are the government lead incentives to go diesel (green), ie lower rego , higher tax deductions for business users etc. Europe is so far ahead of Australia in offering these type of incentives.

Well you could option a GTD up to $75K before you have to pay LCT, instead of $57K for a car with a consumption rating of over 7.5l/100km, haha. (I think that consumption figure is right, it's close anyway.)

[Comegetsome]

Hi all,

Saw a GTD at a dealer today which will remain anonymous. I was impressed! The interior is nicely understated compared to the jacky in the GTI and the wheels look very nice with the shadow effect on the inside. I think I might have to seriously consider this car. Yes, for me diesel is important for the torque surge. I truly believe non-diesel drivers have to experience it first hand before they really understand, it not all about power (kW's).

CGS

[Greg Roles]

Amen brother.

[REXman]

Because not everyone wants to hunt for 98RON petrol!

A

I think its only 95 now with MK6

[pologti18t]

Hi all,

Saw a GTD at a dealer today which will remain anonymous. I was impressed! The interior is nicely understated compared to the jacky in the GTI and the wheels look very nice with the shadow effect on the inside. I think I might have to seriously consider this car. Yes, for me diesel is important for the torque surge. I truly believe non-diesel drivers have to experience it first hand before they really understand, it not all about power (kW's).

CGS

Have you actually driven a turbo petrol car? Currently my polo gti has 330Nm from a 1.8L petrol engine. It will give you the same (if not better) "surge" as the Golf GTD.

[Lima]

Have you actually driven a turbo petrol car? Currently my polo gti has 330Nm from a 1.8L petrol engine. It will give you the same (if not better) "surge" as the Golf GTD.

That's a pointless argument in this context. All a GTD owner has to do is reflash their ECU and regain the advantage over a tuned Pogo.

[Comegetsome]

Have you actually driven a turbo petrol car? Currently my polo gti has 330Nm from a 1.8L petrol engine. It will give you the same (if not better) "surge" as the Golf GTD.

Yes, owned 2 x WRX's.

[Spilledprawn]

I've had two WRX's (99 WRX hatch and 03 STi). The STi was heavily tuned to 600nm - but only made that torque over 4500rpm. It was awesomely fast (sub 5 sec 0-100), but painful as a daily driver and drank fuel.

I've now got an 08 GT TDI and although it isn't faster 0-100, in gear accel is much better from low revs, it has no lag comparatively, and gets under 6L per 100k's.

I'm much happier with the GT. Bring on diesel power! (any detractors - just look at the top three cars in LeMans 2009)

[pologti18t]

Yes, owned 2 x WRX's.

I mean a turbo petrol car with a decently tuned engine - lol WRX are know for their peaky delivery.
If you look at a european turbo petrol engine you will see that max Nm happen at very low rpm (less than 2000rpm).
The Golf GTI and BMW 135i are both examples of this.

[triode12]

I've had two WRX's (99 WRX hatch and 03 STi). The STi was heavily tuned to 600nm - but only made that torque over 4500rpm. It was awesomely fast (sub 5 sec 0-100), but painful as a daily driver and drank fuel.

I've now got an 08 GT TDI and although it isn't faster 0-100, in gear accel is much better from low revs, it has no lag comparatively, and gets under 6L per 100k's.

I'm much happier with the GT. Bring on diesel power! (any detractors - just look at the top three cars in LeMans 2009)

Hi SP,

Do you own a GT Sport TDI or a GT TDI? I didn't think VWA bought out the GT with a TDI engine.

[Lima]

...I'm much happier with the GT. Bring on diesel power! (any detractors - just look at the top three cars in LeMans 2009)

Actually you can look at the first seven cars. The first four from quali are the Peugeot 908s followed by three Audi R15s.

[Spilledprawn]

Hi SP,

Do you own a GT Sport TDI or a GT TDI? I didn't think VWA bought out the GT with a TDI engine.

A GT Sport TDI!

[Comegetsome]

I mean a turbo petrol car with a decently tuned engine - lol WRX are know for their peaky delivery.
If you look at a european turbo petrol engine you will see that max Nm happen at very low rpm (less than 2000rpm).
The Golf GTI and BMW 135i are both examples of this.

All I'm saying is that I am older and wiser now. Been there done that with the WRX's. I don't want to go around revving the living daylights out of a car any more. With a diesel you don't have to, sure it's not as fast accelerating as the cars you mentioned, but these days you just look like a d**kh**d doing that anyway!

That is why the GTD works for me and many others I suspect. It has the look and quality of the GTI, near 90% of the performance, but can travel near double the distance on a tank.

CGS