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  • DSG Operation.

    1/ turn off brain
    2/ press go pedal

    I still prefer a manual - i like to drive the car
    2007 Audi RS4 with: APR ECU Upgrade; JHM Quick Shifter; Milltek Catback and Downpipes; KW V3 Coilovers; Argon Creative Carbon Fibre Splitters

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    • I think VW need to be accountable for their 5.7s claim for the manual
      2007 Audi RS4 with: APR ECU Upgrade; JHM Quick Shifter; Milltek Catback and Downpipes; KW V3 Coilovers; Argon Creative Carbon Fibre Splitters

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      • Originally posted by Sharkie View Post
        DSG is only quicker to 100km/h using launch control. And how often 1.) can you use this & 2.) are you going to use this. In day to day driving the manual is quicker as the hesitation off the line negates any advantage the DSG has in shifiting between gears .... and you only have to shift once in the manual ......
        In case you didn't notice he was dumping the clutch on the takeoffs in the manual so the same applies.

        You don't need to use launch control to get a fast takeoff without delay in the DSG under normal circumstances either.

        R's DSG is supposed to be better off the line than any DSG previously, but as UK R owners have reported still not perfect.
        Neither is shifting gears yourself but the DSG is a hell of a lot faster, uses less fuel, is consistent and puts out less emissions for the tree huggers.

        I'd have to drive them both before making a final decision. I've driven a MK6 118TSI DSG quite extensively and dont like it .... as smart as it is I can and often do catch it off-guard, which never happens to me in a manual .....
        Drive it in manual mode and you won't have that problem and the six speed DSG is different to the seven speed DSG in the way it operates.
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        • that red doesn't suit the r at all!
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          • black 5 door with DSG, leather, 19" wheels and sat nav
            Originally posted by dave- View Post
            It's not about pushing harder. If they can't find stock that matches the specification I want then not much they can do unfortunately

            What spec have you managed to secure?

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            • Originally posted by benjmin View Post
              black 5 door with DSG, leather, 19" wheels and sat nav
              Ah cool. I was offered Blue 3 door, DSG, leather and sat nav. Don't want sat nav but the killer was no sunroof.

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              • Sunroof just add weight to the car and leak. More of a useless option compared to some of the others but personal preference I guess and got to get what you want.

                Shame if that was the deal breaker after waiting so long.

                Ps just noticed the Golf R info is up on the APR site.

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                • Originally posted by G-rig View Post
                  Sunroof just add weight to the car and leak. More of a useless option compared to some of the others but personal preference I guess and got to get what you want.
                  Leak? LOL when was the last time you had a car with a sunroof, 1982? Seriously, you've optioned a reversing camera on a small hatchback and then saying a sunroof is a useless option? ROFL! Personal preference indeed.

                  It would be a shame after the wait, but the idea of spending this much money for a compromise doesn't rate highly.

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                  • Originally posted by dave- View Post
                    Leak? LOL when was the last time you had a car with a sunroof, 1982? Seriously, you've optioned a reversing camera on a small hatchback and then saying a sunroof is a useless option? ROFL! Personal preference indeed.

                    It would be a shame after the wait, but the idea of spending this much money for a compromise doesn't rate highly.
                    Yeah probably ok these days but Justin's 2006 MK5 roof was leaking this week.

                    I think a camera would be more worthwhile if you don't run over your kids instead of looking cool.

                    Agree though, a lot to spend for compromise but depends how much you want to get into one. why not just order one and get a runaround for 6 months??

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                    • Originally posted by dave- View Post
                      Leak? LOL when was the last time you had a car with a sunroof, 1982? Seriously, you've optioned a reversing camera on a small hatchback and then saying a sunroof is a useless option? ROFL! Personal preference indeed.

                      It would be a shame after the wait, but the idea of spending this much money for a compromise doesn't rate highly.
                      I agree that Sunroofs in modern 2010 cars, if well maintained and looked after will not have any leaking problems. and for $1900 its not THAT expensive for something that can bring better resale value to the car.

                      Its definitely better value imo then spending almost the same amount on Xenon headlights, especially when other car brands charge no where near as much as VW do for them. and afterall... the car comes with headlights anyway. I know you will have people that will justify it in the opposite direction and say they are a must and once you have them you never go back... which may well be true! But not for $2000.

                      However a reversing camera is so cheap ($500 from memory?) it is a no brainer, and you would just option it on. I have heard that the rear viability on the new MK6 Golf to be quite bad so having the reversing camera there can pay for itself if you ever have a child/animal anything behind the car that you did not see.

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                      • Originally posted by Pauly View Post
                        Its definitely better value imo then spending almost the same amount on Xenon headlights, especially when other car brands charge no where near as much as VW do for them. and afterall... the car comes with headlights anyway. I know you will have people that will justify it in the opposite direction and say they are a must and once you have them you never go back... which may well be true! But not for $2000.
                        I chose bi-xenons over sunroof as they are a more sought after option on the second hand market, and in 5 years all cars will most likely have bi-xenons and people will expect it. They are also awesome and it's true once you've had them you prob wouldn't go back to halogens. As far as a sunroof, some people couldn't care but others love them.. more of an image thing IMO. Also your car already comes with wheels so why get 18"?

                        Yeah the camera is a no brainer for $500 and you couldn't even fit it for that later if you bought all the parts. I suspect most GTI's/Golf R's may come pre-spec'd with them but can understand if people don't want to add things later if it slows down the order.
                        Last edited by G-rig; 19-05-2010, 02:22 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by dave- View Post
                          Leak? LOL when was the last time you had a car with a sunroof, 1982?
                          Actually there is a problem with leaking on the Mark V and VI's if the drain tubes that exit near the front door hinges and near the rear wheel are not kept clear.

                          Seriously, you've optioned a reversing camera on a small hatchback and then saying a sunroof is a useless option? ROFL! Personal preference indeed.
                          The Mark V and Mark VI both have poor rear visibility which is actually worse than many 4WD's and large cars. Rear visibility has NOTHING to do with the size of the car but everything to do with the design.

                          It would be a shame after the wait, but the idea of spending this much money for a compromise doesn't rate highly.
                          Maybe spend some of that time researching and you'll find reasons why the RVC is an important SAFETY feature and why the sunroofs can and do leak before jumping down someone's throat.
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                          • I put on the bi-xenons because I've been very unhappy with the headlights on my Mk5.

                            I didn't really think about getting the camera. It would have been nice to have but I was also running out of budget by that stage.
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                            • Originally posted by Maverick View Post
                              Maybe spend some of that time researching and you'll find reasons why the RVC is an important SAFETY feature and why the sunroofs can and do leak before jumping down someone's throat.
                              LOL what farken party poopers, its like the "you should have a 5 door" argument all over again. It's an important feature to YOU maybe. Someone else questioned my options, i was just providing a response. I don't think there was any need for you to come in on your soapbox as G-Rig and myself appeared to be having a valid discussion without issue before you arrived.

                              If you've paid attention previously, I've said people can option whatever the hell they like. It's their money, doesn't effect me in the slightest. Conversely I can option what I like and it has no impact on anyone else.

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                              • It's true, though. I read on the internet that windows can leak so I custom ordered my car with fixed panels welded in where the windows usually go. Visibility is not so great, but I also got a front facing camera to go with my RVC. So, as you can see it's all worked out quite well.


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