Golf R 3 door/5 door speculation/information thread

[dave_r]

And yet the 3 door that was on the docks here has sailed off once again I think to NZ. All very strange on April 1st if you ask me

If it was forum only info, I'd agree but given we got e-mails from their PR manager and the dealer network has been issued with an official statement from VWA, it would be corporate suicide to pull an April Fools stunt like that!

[Pauly]

I suppose people wanting to know the price of the Golf R, all we have to go off is the R32 pricing, and the word from VWA that it would be 'Between the GTI and R32'.

So if you can afford the R32, you can afford the R. Simple really.

Great News regardless. Just ashame that the wont have the pricing out for a couple of months still.

However the more people pre-ordering the car, the better the price may end up being! So for the guys on here not worried about price! ORDER IT!

[Qikas]

I'm VERY STRONGLY in the 3 door came, but I'm not silly, and I'm not blind. Look around. Australian's just do not like 3 door cars.

A quote from 2005: According to VW Australia’s head of PR, Matthew Wiesner, it would be happy for another, Golf GTI-like response. Currently there is a seven-month wait on the Golf GTI. In fact he would be happy for the Polo GTI to alleviate some of the backlog of orders for its bigger brother. "The Polo GTI might appeal to those who want a GTI as a manual and a three-door hatch and aren’t prepared to wait for the Golf," Mr Wiesner added.

[Corey_R]

I know the history Qikas - it still doesn't change the reality of the Australia car-buyers landscape.

I'm on your side. But it's just the way it is.

[parso_rex]

If it was forum only info, I'd agree but given we got e-mails from their PR manager and the dealer network has been issued with an official statement from VWA, it would be corporate suicide to pull an April Fools stunt like that!

I agree there. There will be more people coming to the VAG fold from other brands. I see quite a few ex Subaru and EVO people in GTIs and S3's these days. I also know of 3 people that will update to the R when there current lease is up.
VW will easily sell all the 5 and 3 cars no probs providing the price isn't dumb. Thats the killer they price the vehicle at what they "think" the market will pay. In Aus its accepted that you can screw everyone for more that other market citing lower volume and taxes and so on but in reality the profits are still quite large compared to other countries

[Corey_R]

Hey guys. I just merged Guy_H's thread into here, and also decided to change the name of this thread a bit. I guess when we FINALLY have official pricing and release date, we'll make a "Golf R Mark VI Specifications and Prices" thread like we have for the GTI and then close this beast off!

[Qikas]

Hey guys. I just merged Guy_H's thread into here, and also decided to change the name of this thread a bit. I guess when we FINALLY have official pricing and release date, we'll make a "Golf R Mark VI Specifications and Prices" thread like we have for the GTI and then close this beast off!

Pink font - nice !! Does that mean you'll be ordering a 4-door with auto too (umm, I meant DSG, that's not an auto)

[graeme86]

"Scirocco will not be coming to aus becuase it will destroy market for Golf GTi and Golf R". More bizarre logic from VWA. It's highly likely they won't be able to meet demand on the GTI and R anyway (on top of lengthy and protacted delivery times which will deter potential interest/orders/sales). ..Why compound this situation by not giving people the choice of the Scirocco R even if they prefer it Why is VWA concerned about Scirocco R purchases potentially detracting from Golf GTI and R sales - ultimately isn't their goal to sell VWs, irrespective of which model it is??? It seems this makes sense to New Zealand (and virtually every other market), but here the preference is to restrict supply and narrow choice.

Hopefully, they might consider doing a Scirocco R run using their limited import licences (like the Mk IV R32)

[Corey_R]

Pink font - nice !! Does that mean you'll be ordering a 4-door with auto too (umm, I meant DSG, that's not an auto)

No, I'll be ordering a 3 door.... as per my other 7 million posts in this thread

[astro]

yay for the awesomeness now the topic makes more sense! can't wait for the car / pricing info to come out

[WhiteJames]

Here a couple of videos showing the Golf R:

1st video is from New Zealand where the journalist can't decide if he wants a Golf R or Golf GTI. Interesting points on the DCC option:

http://www.3news.co.nz/Video/Sunrise/tabid/572/articleID/144668/Default.aspx

The other video is in German and shows a Red Golf R with Privacy Glass. Can anyone on forum understand German?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d52AqDWqGlk

Now that this thread is a speculation/information thread on the Golf R; this is what United Kingdom's CAR Magazine points out when comparing the Golf R -v- Sirocco R. Not that the Sirocco R is coming to Aus; but useful as a benchmark on whether the AWD is worth the extra weight as a trade-off:

Golf R:
More sophisticated and balanced.
Fast with fantastic body control & excels in greasy conditions with little need to back off.
Can exhibit a stiff ride; which is contrary to what the Kiwi journo is saying.
4/5.

Sirocco R (aka Golf GTI with ECU retune & Coilovers):
More wayward and characterful.
More demanding in inclement conditions, requiring more effort from the driver to keep it tidy that more challenging than upsetting.
Rear end responds better to throttle steer.
Weight has a noticeable effect on handling.
Feels faster than the Golf R; depsite not being faster (well not in wet/damp/greasy conditions).
Feel fewer bumps with DCC as standard.
5/5.

June release of the Golf R will not give me the opportunity to sample the Golf R -v- GTI, although I'm still leaning towards the GTI. The annoying rattle in the GTI may be a drawback and lower price of the Golf R without leather interior (I like the cloth in the R) & park sensors standard is a plus. The GTI is still the looker of the two and would be a more challenging drive when pressing on. The Golf R better balanced and seriously quick in all weather conditions.

Cheers
WJ

[G-rig]

Re: Golf R 3 door/5 door speculation/information thread

Hopefully the 3 dr confirmation isn't an April fools joke, and scans of the official memo in case I missed it today (not that I want one haha).

[Corey_R]

They went way to far if it were an April fools joke. Dealers on both sides of the country received emails from VWA, including order codes for the 3 door. This prompted dealers to contact some of their customers, including myself, to let them know the news. Also some customers, including myself, received emails directly from Karl Gehling.

So not much chance of it not being real

[G-rig]

Re: Golf R 3 door/5 door speculation/information thread

Yeah, good to finally hear something one way or the other!

[dave_r]

This prompted dealers to contact some of their customers, including myself, to let them know the news. Also some customers, including myself, received emails directly from Karl Gehling.

Ditto and ditto. My dealer had already forwarded off my order before contacting me. No mucking around here