Golf R 3 door/5 door speculation/information thread

[elisiX]

If the dealers had it we'd know via the car news sites. No word as yet.

[dave_r]

If the dealers had it we'd know via the car news sites. No word as yet.

People know it, they'd just be bound not to disclose until VWA says they can. Not a chance that it hasn't been decided yet.

[elisiX]

You are probably right.

Hmmm.. I think I am going to switch from the Black to Blue on the R (if I end up going that way...)

Black hides too many of the subtle lines which make the R stand out.

I've never owned a car with a shade (for Corey ) other than Black, White or Grey.

[Lima]

People know it, they'd just be bound not to disclose until VWA says they can. Not a chance that it hasn't been decided yet.

I understand VW Aus are very strict on pricing confidentiality now.

[dave_r]

I understand VW Aus are very strict on pricing confidentiality now.

Well they still have existing R32 stock to sell and can easily sign up people with GTI's so why not, have to run a business. Holding the info as long as possible is good for them.

LOL at hiding that url

[elisiX]

Another new article. http://www.carsales.com.au/reviews/2...n-golf-r-18184

We already knew this but again..

As far as pricing is concerned, VW Australia has only said the car will sit between the GTI and outgoing R32. That implies a slight price reduction, but don't expect it to be too far from the R32 starting price of $55,490 in order to leave enough space between the GTI and the R.

Full pricing and Australian specifications will be released when the car is launched here in June or July.

Seriously, if we really have to wait for pricing till June/July... I might just not bother. Dammit!

I dont know if I can manage going from ordering a GTI in December to waiting for July for an R when the GTI will most likely arrive end of April.

[iBoost]

Might be hard elisiX, as if the prices are not released until June/July, you'd have to jump straight into one that's already on the ground in Australia or be waiting another 4 or 5 months for it from Germany. That's all depending on how big the waiting list for the R is... tough choice.

[elisiX]

Oh I totally expected to take one that arrives first (pre ordered from dealer).

The issue is this. I need to know the pricing for the R before my GTI arrives.

I need to know that its within my budget (with a few options I want) so that I can release the GTI for someone else.

I wont be letting the GTI go if I dont know R pricing when it arrives.

[Corey_R]

Seriously, if we really have to wait for pricing till June/July... I might just not bother. Dammit!

I dont know if I can manage going from ordering a GTI in December to waiting for July for an R when the GTI will most likely arrive end of April.

Mate, I think you need to step back and have a cold one! You're going to kill yourself otherwise

We didn't get the MK6 GTI pricing until October 15, when it came from Maverick and his my-gti.com site. The GTI was then actually released on the 31st of October - so only two weeks before availability! It probably won't be any different with the R.

But I wouldn't stress. Use my spreadsheet and that'll give you pricing (based on R32 prices and the GTI options... I've updated it recently with corrections and stuff based on latest info). As we now know for 100% certainty that it won't be any more than an R32, if you budget based on what the spreadsheet says, then all that will happen is you'll have money left over once you've been able to negotiate a discount.

[iBoost]

Corey's advice is sound, go with the R32 spreadsheet prices and if you are happy with that pricing, you might even end up with a few $$$ left at the end of the deal.

It really comes down to whether you can comfortably afford the R and are happy paying the price for it or if the GTI is "enough." If you are this torn over it, then it's pretty obvious you want the R, and in the long run over 3 years or however long you have the car, you don't want to look back on it and regret the decision. I know the feeling where you just can't make a decision, but I generally go with what I really want if the means are available to do so. You only live once.

In saying that either car is bloody nice, and it's a pretty good problem to have to be tossing up between a 50k+ loaded GTI or a $60k R.

[elisiX]

I guess that's the problem Corey - what if on the R they actually do not negotiate on the initial shipment.

But perhaps you are right. I actually didn't realise MKVI GTI pricing was released only 2 weeks prior to launch.

I still would not feel totally comfortable letting the GTI go when no firm pricing has been released.

[iBoost]

Do what I'll probably do then, be happy with the Golf GTI, APR chip it etc and keep it for a couple of years. Once the Rs have been out a couple of years pick one up cheaper second hand. Best of both worlds.

[elisiX]

Using the spreadsheet Corey, i've selected the following.

Golf R
DSG
5 Door
MDI
Sunroof
Metallic ($0 cost)
Leather ($0 cost)
Xenon ($0 cost)

$70,264 assuming no discount.

I'm hoping to be out the door for $65k - and if that's the case I will be happy.

Actually, if I could get RNS510 included for $67,500 total.. i'd probably stump up the extra $2500 also.

[Corey_R]

Yeah - that sounds reasonable. About my only concern is whether leather will be included or not. I have a feeling that the reason the car might be 'cheaper' than an R32, is because it won't include leather as standard but will be optioned.

Drive have posted their 'first drive' of the R.
It's interesting in that they say:

Inside, Volkswagen Individual (the department responsible for the German brand's R-Line models) adds heated sports seats trimmed in a mix of black and grey fabric.

Cloth seats with heating? And then...

Volkswagen Australia has confirmed it will offer the Golf R in one trim level but with a number of options available. They will include leather seats, racing-style seats, sunroof, 19-inch alloy wheels and reversing camera.

So both 'leather seats' AND 'racing-style seats' will be an option.

If this is true, this _could_ be a good thing for all of those who are not happy with the 'leather / vinyl' blend that VW use. You could go out and get aftermarket leather, but not give up the heated seats etc.

I also noticed this:

One positive is the change to the latest iteration of VW's DSG automated manual dual-clutch transmission that all-but-eradicates the initial hesitation on take-off. This is a bugbear of ours and a fault that has plagued this form of transmission in the past.

This is certainly a good change that should make a LOT of people here happy. If it turns out to be true, then some of the 'manual hold-outs' here who have sited that as the reason they'd not drive a DSG... well, might just option the DSG this time

[Christopher]

Interesting article...

Talk of prototypes Tiguan and Polo R's....

http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/r-spells-racey-for-hot-vws-20100205-ni6v.html