Golf R 3 door/5 door speculation/information thread

[elisiX]

Fair call. I suppose its much of a muchness.

Is anyone going to actually notice 10kw?

[azzab80]

Interesting to note the weight in the first drive article here
http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-new...0201-n7a5.html

If it's correct its 1521 kg for a manual compared to 1360kg for a GTI.

Would suggest most of the weight savings in the MkVI comes from using the new EA888 motor as would 4wd = 160 more kg's?

Guys in the UK are getting around 260hp (193kw) with a Revo chip on the EA888 so it seems to have some pretty good potential with just a stage I upgrade.

Just the 4wd part that is making it so hard to decide!

[Corey_R]

The article is simply stating what we've already known though.... midyear release and around the same price as the R32. We've already known this because VWA have already said it! But it's nice that there is now an article bringing it together.

@azzab80. Welcome to the forums. In some countries the difference between the MK6 GTI and MK6 R is as low as 125KG. Which options are included on both cars in the stated weights is an influence there. The wait saving between the R32 and the R would almost definitely be entirely related to changing from the old 3.2L V6 to the 2L Turbo.

As for the stage I upgrade, the Golf R is 188/199kw & 350NM (depending on market) by default, so the Stage I upgrade from APR will take that up to 240KW & 435NM.

Even so, a 188/199kw Golf R will beat a 193kw GTI in acceleration for sure. Around the corners, I would say that the improved stock suspension, lower ride height, and improved anti-roll bars will probably make the R pretty close to the GTI... so go the R

[azzab80]

Thanks for the welcome coreying.

I guess I'm trying to convince myself that I'll be happy with the GTI because I don't want to wait the extra 3-4 months!

[Corey_R]

They also state that 19" wheels may be an option. Are these wheels we've seen on all R pics 18's?

If you go to a site like Lima's Ausmotive who post good quality photos, you can see that the tyres are 235/35 R19 on the initial press photos.
The 18's are the same design and colour though. ALL the black wheels are 19" only. So yeah, if you want the 19's in silver or black it will probably cost around $1200 to $1700 (based on the GTI's upgrade in Australia and compared to the difference between the GTI and R options overseas).

[Corey_R]

Thanks for the welcome coreying.

I guess I'm trying to convince myself that I'll be happy with the GTI because I don't want to wait the extra 3-4 months!

You'll definitely be happy with the GTI! I had one and loved it. I'm old enough and ugly enough and lucky enough to be paid enough to afford the R and to 'toy with the idea' of driving up to QLD to hand my car over to Guy_H and get the Stage III kit done. The AWD will definitely help in that respect.

Also, my favourite colour is blue, and so I have to get an R

[iBoost]

I think you'll be happy with the GTI as well. I think the GTI is the best overall bang for your buck, especially with a quick flash tune.

If you have the extra cash and can comfortably afford the R then go for it as it obviously has the advantage of AWD and will make even more power.

For me, the GTI is going to be awesome, and hopefully I can follow in coreying's foot steps in the coming years and get a Golf R.

[elisiX]

With pricing expecting to come in shy or on that of the R32 - my decision is just about confirmed to move to the R from the GTI.

I will of course wait for final pricing (and negotiations at that point) before letting go of my GTI order but its looking good at this point.

My only issue will be significant delays past May as July would be painful.

[iBoost]

What are you driving right now elisix if you don't mind me asking?

I only ask this as I sold my 3 MPS 18 months ago and have been driving the wife's Yaris on weekends while saving for our house. So I know the pain you may be in...

[elisiX]

Sold my 265HP 06 TT a year back and been driving a Mazda 3 since.

We had bought a new 08 Mazda 3 SP23 about a year before selling the TT though as we decided to keep one car while buying our second property.

The Mazda is a great bit of kit for $32k I must say, but I miss the outright power, luxury and feel the euro's bring.

[Corey_R]

If I were without a car, then I agree, the longer wait would be painful - but man, you've already got a 'competent car', despite it being a Mazda , so what's another month or so to have exactly what you want ?!

[elisiX]

Corey - I basically will wait - but I am going to whinge all the same.

Nothing will be set in stone until pricing is - regardless.

[Corey_R]

Hehe - well for me, I had a MKV GTI which was literally fully optioned (except for Metallic paint, since it was red) and then had the full Oettinger body kit, oettinger wheels, and APR Stage II setup... for less than 5 months when a bus killed it in Jan 09.
I looked around for another one of similar specs, but couldn't regardless of colour or age. I considered ordering a brand new one, but then VW had just shown the Golf GTI MK6 (including in blue) so by the time my new MKV arrived the MK6 GTI would be out and there was no way I could do that!

But then VW said the 'R32 replacement' would be a 2L turbo, which is what I had always wanted anyway, so purchased the Polo GTI when I _finally_ got my insurance cheque in April 09 and I've been waiting since then for the R

[astro]

can't find the thread where people where talking about colours... but someone metentioned white with black wheels an mirrors i found this on the net.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sSo8_NpNwA&feature=related

[gtimal]

I've tried to get a price on the new Golf R has anyone else had any luck .

Cheers