MK6 GTI cancelled - is a R32 an option?

[woosh73]

lost

i've been reading these posts , could someone please supply with a MAP , i'm lost

[Lima]

i've posted this quote before by hans stuck "...I bought an R32. Because I know there will never be a six-cylinder in the golf in the future. It's an 08-model with only 5000km in dark grey. It has to come into the garage and I'm going to keep it..."

if i won the lotto, i would be going out and buying an R32 today...united grey.

agree, it's not much faster than a mkv or mkvi GTI, but you don't get an R32 for that reason.

you get it for the lagless NA power, 4 paw grip, cruiser ride quality and lets not forget the ball tingling sound it makes...

to say it's an "abomination among Golfs" is a little unfair.

Hans Stuck also said...

“We always had a GTI in the family, from the first to the sixth. The Pirelli Editions too. There were no gaps here. Even when I was under contract with BMW, I preferred to drive to the Nürburgring in a GTI. It was in a GTI that I drove 911 drivers to distraction on the North Loop. My wife was even driving a GTI when she first caught my attention.”

[elisiX]

Murphy, what do you use? The cam or silhouette?

And which do you find more functional.

Might give the dealer a call and see if it can be added (seeing as build doesnt begin until Mid Feb).

[Lima]

I'm not totally sure how the RVC works though seeing as you would only be able to have one or the other on the display (camera or silhouette).

In hindsight, if the order wasn't already placed, I might have added it but we made the deal literally on Christmas.

This comment was from Whitejames on MKV.com which kinda sums up my own assessment.

Hmm, I'm almost certain I saw the camera and park assist working in tandem during a demo at the GTI drive day at Eastern Creek last year???

[Swallowtail]

Not with the factory firmware. You can switch between the RVC and the OPS using an on-screen button. I wouldn't want an overlay since it would most likely distort the camera view and render the image virtually useless.

Murphy, there are later firmwares available for the RNS510 that give the functionality, and they do not overlay in the way you describe... there are pics around on the web that show the display, have to see if I can find one... but they work fine together anyway.

[Dubya]

I didn't want to push the issue further by adding in the RVC as well.

I guess you could have either said "okay, if you throw in RVC too" or simply ordered RVC at full price with no pushing involved.

If the order was placed just 3 weeks ago it should not be too late to amend and would give you one of the best value options on the list.

(You might have read of the time and trouble Maverick went to to put an RVC in his Mark V. It took many hours and cost $750 or more in parts alone.)

[Dubya]

Might give the dealer a call and see if it can be added (seeing as build doesnt begin until Mid Feb).

Insist!

$500 is not something to quibble about on a $40k car let alone one worth half as much again!!

[MurphyTheElf]

Murphy, what do you use? The cam or silhouette?

And which do you find more functional.

Might give the dealer a call and see if it can be added (seeing as build doesnt begin until Mid Feb).

I use the camera for reversing, but still use mirrors and headchecks. In very bright light the OPS may be more useful since colours on the RVC can be washed out. OPS is very handy for forward manoeuvres - bollards and kerbs are detected and highlighted around the silhouette.

Murphy, there are later firmwares available for the RNS510 that give the functionality, and they do not overlay in the way you describe... there are pics around on the web that show the display, have to see if I can find one... but they work fine together anyway.

I'd like a firmware upgrade, but my service manager said there are none available. No map upgrades either. Contrary to what I've read here. Either they haven't been officially released for the Australian market, or he's full of it.

[Maverick]

Not with the factory firmware. You can switch between the RVC and the OPS using an on-screen button. I wouldn't want an overlay since it would most likely distort the camera view and render the image virtually useless.

Yeah the overlay distorts the camera view rendering the image useless ... <where has the face palm smiley gone???>

[MurphyTheElf]

OK, I said "most likely", assuming it was a full screen overlay. I stand corrected.

So does the firmware upgrade come with Spanish subtitles or do you have to pay extra for that?

[Maverick]

OK, I said "most likely", assuming it was a full screen overlay. I stand corrected.

So does the firmware upgrade come with Spanish subtitles or do you have to pay extra for that?

The photo is from Spain, logically his language is set to the local language.

[Dubya]

But back on topic...

If we can presume from his deliberations that Lawsy is:

- more concerned with performance than economy;
- happy to purchase second hand;
- does not mind not having the latest body shape (and a 3 year warranty); and
- is not to fussed about efficiency or fuel economy,

then the R32 would probably be the go.

If he buys well, he should get far more bang for his buck acquiring a well-optioned 2008 R32 than he would purchasing a new GTI.

But if he:

- would prefer the latest, if not necessarily the greatest;
- is concerned about fuel economy and overall efficiency, sustainability and those types of things;
- would like the peace of mind of buying new and of a 3-year warranty and of buying the current model; and
- can bide his time,

then he should seriously consider sticking with the new GTI.

XDL must go some way to addressing the few shortcomings the GTI had as a performance FWD car and narrow the handling gap with AWD under most conditions.

Unless Lawsy is regularly switching from one car to the other, he will probably get as much driving pleasure from a new GTI as he would from an R32.

So if the priorities are:

- Outright performance and grip and getting a car now, go the R32;

- Efficiency and peace of mind, go the Mark VI GTI.

I did not even consider the R32 as I was in the market initially for a GTD before switching to a GTI which did everything I wanted (except accept snow chains I found out later). To top it off, the sales manager firmly expressed the view that the GTI was a much more practical town car than the R32 which was not even on my radar.

[Christopher]

OK, I said "most likely", assuming it was a full screen overlay. I stand corrected.

So does the firmware upgrade come with Spanish subtitles or do you have to pay extra for that?

"Baxter! You know I don't speak Spanish..."

Sorry, it had to be said!

[elisiX]

Burgundy is GOD!

[MurphyTheElf]

"Baxter! You know I don't speak Spanish..."

Sorry, I had to be said!

What? You pooped in the refrigerator? And you ate the whole wheel of cheese? How'd you do that? Heck, I'm not even mad.