MK6 GTI cancelled - is a R32 an option?

[thezoneR32]

$44K seems like a cheap price - especially for a 3 door as these are rare and look heaps better in 3 dr IMO. How did u find the DSG in the R32?? I have never driven a DSG before, but the few im looking at are DSG... Was fuel consumption as bad as everyone is saying? My MK5 GTI, I would get around 550klms on a full tank

There is people asking like $45K for a 3 yr old R32 - hard to tell em they are dreaming... Id say if I can pick one up for like $38K that would be a great buy. Give her a ECU upgrade and that may do me

I picked mine up for $38k so it is possible. Was a private sale-3dr-blue-dsg-30,000km. I think I got a really good buy tho. The guy had moved overseas and needed the cash. It meant I could afford to spend some $ on some nice mods-gps-haldex-apr flash etc.

DSG is an awesome but of kit but you really need to drive it for a couple of months in manual mode to get the jist. The R32 is not great on fuel but thats the price you pay for good honest (na) low down torque.

This thread is fun can someone please shoot me down in flames now?

[backdoc]

$44K seems like a cheap price - especially for a 3 door as these are rare and look heaps better in 3 dr IMO. How did u find the DSG in the R32?? I have never driven a DSG before, but the few im looking at are DSG... Was fuel consumption as bad as everyone is saying? My MK5 GTI, I would get around 550klms on a full tank

There is people asking like $45K for a 3 yr old R32 - hard to tell em they are dreaming... Id say if I can pick one up for like $38K that would be a great buy. Give her a ECU upgrade and that may do me

DSG is great 99% of the time. I know I'm stating the obvious but it's not a manual so it has it's compromises. But I ordered my new car with it!

The fuel use I thought was good considering the performance. 7.5L/100km on long trips and 10.5L/100km around town. 98RON adds up but most good cars need it.

[Dubya]

DSG is great 99% of the time. I know I'm stating the obvious but it's not a manual . . .

Isn't it an automated dual clutch manual?

[backdoc]

Isn't it an automated dual clutch manual?

Gosh, picky picky in here! I think you know what I meant. Not a traditional manual in the sense of..................no clutch pedal! I'm pretty sure you knew that though

[Corey_R]

There is people asking like $45K for a 3 yr old R32 - hard to tell em they are dreaming... Id say if I can pick one up for like $38K that would be a great buy. Give her a ECU upgrade and that may do me

The way you're talking, I think you really need to do some more research first. The R32 is not a GTI. NA cars are completely different to Turbo cars. You can't apply any of the research you've done on upgrades for the GTI to the R32.

Just look at the APR page for the R32 ECU upgrade. They don't even bother telling you how many extra KW you're getting. Because you get basically none extra! Your power just comes on earlier and you get a moderate amount of additional torque. Which is probably why the ECU update for the R32 is half the price of the GTI, cause it's such a small difference!

[Dubya]

Dubya .. You can actually have an informative conversation without being rude pricks to each other.

So what's your excuse elisiX? Or do you think calling people "pricks" not rude? On the other hand I have only gone so far as to be facetious in frustration at your asinine and dictatorial comments and have otherwise kept it civil. You'll find no comparable example of rudeness in my posts which is remarkable as you would test the patience of a saint.

I clarified the fact that he had purchased then cancelled his order ...

Why? You imagined this needed clarifying even though it was in the first sentence of Lawsy's post. Not only did it not need clarifying, it was irrelevant to the question posed.

...you made comment that he was simply tossing up the options between a MKVI GTI and MKV R32.

That is all Lawsy was doing. How can you fail to realise this?

By cancelling the GTI, dont you think he made that decision. For the short term at least.

Apparently not - see above and the original post. It's in B&W. He was tossing up between two different Golfs. He said so. Everyone responded as if that is what he was pondering. Everyone gets it except you.

But then you try and weasel out of your mistake by suggesting you know what Lawsy had decided "for the short term". What the hell does that mean? He had decided not to go ahead with the GTI and to reassess his purchase, that is all.

What is so hard to understand?

As for me being on some form on vendetta?.. you must be joking right?

I was being facetious but wondering why you would say Lawsy was "exaggerating" and then cast doubt on his word, as you did. That (casting aspersions) is what I call unnecessary.

No need to make blanket uninformed comments such as referring to the R32 as an 'abomination'. The response in relation to this comment alone stands for itself.

Again, it was just my opinion of this otherwise fine car and I very much enjoyed reading the spirited defences of the R32 it prompted and which would have provided valuable grist for Lawsy's mill

As for them standing for themselves, they were excellent comments, and I welcome them.

Sure, i'm not the boss of you.. feel free to do what you like - everyone is entitled to an opinion . . .

You got that right!

But it would just be nice if you respected the opinions of others and paid a little more attention to the original post and did not make up BS about the issue being the cancellation of the order when that was merely the (now irrelevant) catalyst for the question of GTI or R32.

I certainly dont want to start on the wrong foot.

Then do everyone a favour and stop dissing people's opinions, telling people what they should or should not be discussing on this forum and wrongly interpreting the reason for the thread when it is so bleeding obvious.

If you think that is rude, then you deserve every bit of it and some.

[Dubya]

Gosh, picky picky in here! I think you know what I meant. Not a traditional manual in the sense of..................no clutch pedal! I'm pretty sure you knew that though

Sorry about that but I wouldn't what any newbies forming a less favourable impression about the DSG than they otherwise might, even though I think DSG is an abomination! Well, maybe not that, but I can think of things I'd rather do with $2,300!!

[elisiX]

WOW... just wow. Even after I make an obvious offer to put the swords down.

You can put the dictionary away now bud. I dont want to keep you up all night trying to find any further extra special words to feed your corpulent ego.

[SoVeReIgN]

The R32 is an abomination among Golfs.

It has 60% greater engine capacity than the Mark V GTI for just 27% more power (and only 20% more than the Mark VI GTI), weighs a lot more and consumes far more fuel around town and yet beats by less than 1 second the GTI's 0-100km/h time.

In urban use the GTI is more nimble than the R32 and any handling challenges it faces are well within its FWD capabilities, let alone what the Mark VI can do with EDL and XDL.

No doubt the R32's resale value will not fare as well as that of the GTI which far better meets the needs of most motorists for efficient, enjoyable and sustainably responsible motoring.

I'd be patient and get a Mark VI GTI (or even more patient and wait for an R20 if you listen to Coreying!) - still the best performance car under $60k.

Cheers

Lol. What makes you think the R32 will depreciate faster than the GTI

No more V6 Golf (ever?), highly desireable (despite what you say) and probably most importantly, the fastest P plate legal car money can buy.

[Dubya]

Lol. What makes you think the R32 will depreciate faster than the GTI

No more V6 Golf (ever?), highly desireable (despite what you say) and probably most importantly, the fastest P plate legal car money can buy.

I dunno . . . rising fuel prices and environmental consciousness and perhaps more power and better performance from the more efficient, lighter-weight R20 that will fill its place.

While I am sure it is a fine car, it is, dare I say it, abominable in these times (but perhaps not as much when the R32 was conceived) to have a car that achieves so little more than a GTI in practical terms with so many more resources.

The R20 undoubtedly reflects this and the changing attitudes and imperatives that are driving automotive design.

[G-rig]

Maybe get a scooter or hydrid if you are concerned dubya, less hot air would help too.

[Dubya]

Maybe get a scooter or hydrid if you are concerned dubya, less hot air would help too.

The inefficiency of the R32 is not an issue with which I have to contend (obviously).

[dave_r]

I dunno . . . rising fuel prices and environmental consciousness and perhaps more power and better performance from the more efficient, lighter-weight R20 that will fill its place.

As I said back on about page 4, the R32 isn't the better choice than a GTI but that is my opinion, much as what you are saying is yours.

But to comment on the above quote. IMO, the R32 is an emotive purchase. What seems to be common sense doesn't always exist in this case. Even after driving a Mk6 GTI, I still found something to love about the R32. And while you may not understand or agree with it, the fact remains that people love the R32. It sold well and is still a good car.

Anyway, this thread didn't need 6 or 7 pages. The OP should drive an R32 if he hasn't already and decide if its a worthwhile purchase. It is unfortunate that the dealer wasn't able to supply a car within the agreed time frame. Have they attempted to source a similarly spec'd car from another dealers stock, they do trades like that all the time I'm sure.

[Cuppa]

I say if you're going to spend more than $45k on a car make sure you're getting exactly what you want. It makes the wait a bit easier knowing you're going to receive a car with the specs you wanted. But don't our opinions too seriously.

[gregozedobe]

I want to know who to send the bill for the ten minutes of my life I have just spent reading lots of posts that were mainly bickering and waving e-penises around, not at all useful in answering the questions the OP asked ?

Honestly, some people need to get a life and think about why they are on this forum.