MK6 GTI cancelled - is a R32 an option?

[elisiX]

I had an R for a day... not a bad car and I really enjoyed myself.

I loved the sound and instant power mostly - but I wouldn't buy one.

[thezoneR32]

i've posted this quote before by hans stuck "...I bought an R32. Because I know there will never be a six-cylinder in the golf in the future. It's an 08-model with only 5000km in dark grey. It has to come into the garage and I'm going to keep it..."

if i won the lotto, i would be going out and buying an R32 today...united grey.

agree, it's not much faster than a mkv or mkvi GTI, but you don't get an R32 for that reason.

you get it for the lagless NA power, 4 paw grip, cruiser ride quality and lets not forget the ball tingling sound it makes...

to say it's an "abomination among Golfs" is a little unfair.

Well said. Get an R32 and buy a haldex gen2 controller then compare the drive to a gti. I know what will put the biggest smile on your dial....hmmmm torque steer versus neutral handling........turbo lag versus instant torque...

[elisiX]

Guys dont turn this into a GTI vs R32 thread.. I'm sure its been done to death in the past.

Personally, and perhaps i've made my point, I think canceling the GTI was a bad move.

[G-rig]

That's pretty painful if you have to begin the wait again after all this time. Hope you're patient! Bit of a catch 22 going for a MY10, as the year would be half over by the time you get it.

How much was the GTI you spec'd up? If you ticked too many boxes you should just i'd just consider an S3/R32, won't be disappointed & R32's are a good price for something pretty new.

[G-rig]

Nice copy and pasting from the other thread Dubya..

Let's face it, the R32 is an abomination among Golfs.

It has 60% more engine capacity than a GTI, weighs more and consumes far more fuel around town and yet shaves barely 1 second from its 0-100km/h time.

Any more abomination than the cult VR6 MK3's?

Why would you bother?

Why bother spending a heap on a 2L that is a front wheel drive? Not really as fast as a MPS or WRX/Evo..

R32's have done 14.4s 1/3 mile and someone with Giac Stage 2 got 14.4 recently.

Far more nimble =

In urban use the GTI is far more nimble and faces handling challenges well within its capabilities, negating the need for the additional weight of AWD.

By 'far more nimble' I assume you mean a lot of wheelspin, axle tram and no traction. Nice if you're into that.

No doubt the R32's resale value will drop like a stone compared to the GTI.

You mean like the GTI's already have from 50k to early 20k's mid last year???

[noone]

The R32 is an abomination among Golfs.

It has 60% greater engine capacity than the Mark V GTI for just 27% more power (and only 20% more than the Mark VI GTI), weighs a lot more and consumes far more fuel around town and yet beats by less than 1 second the GTI's 0-100km/h time.

If you have seen an R32 do what it does best, its impressive. They do need a bit of work to get the best out of them, but if you think that 1 second less in the 0-100 times is not much, why bother with the GTI at all? The 118TSI was Drives car of the year from memory as it had most of the toys and performance without the extra price tag... The VW spec says the 118TSI is 1.1 sec slower than the GTI, practically nothing?

When you start getting fairly fast, 1 sec faster in the 0-100 times is a lot. They do drink like a V8, but it can do things the GTI cant from a FWD perspective.

Don't get me wrong, I think the GTI looks to be a great car and all the reviews talk highly about the MkV to MkVI platform improvements, but the R32 is a great car too, I'd be very happy with one if i had the budget. with the MkVI being so popular, we may see the resale of the R32's dropping quickly and I might end up in one!

[Dubya]

The only person copying and pasting from the other thread is you, G-rig. None of the quotes you have used are from this thread and in some cases you have added words which I did not write (as you did in the thread in Mark V forum).

You should be aware that if you are going to use the quote feature you should not edit the words of the person you are quoting (unless you do it within square brackets) for obvious reasons

[G-rig]

The only person copying and pasting from the other thread is you, G-rig. None of the quotes you have used are from this thread and in some cases you have added words which I did not write (as you did in the thread in Mark V forum).

You should be aware that if you are going to use the quote feature you should not edit the words of the person you are quoting (unless you do it within square brackets) for obvious reasons

You wrote all the same stuff in the leather thread and I noticed you just pasted it in here. I fixed the misquote problem yesterday if you bothered to check.

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newforum/upload/showpost.php?p=442839&postcount=45

[elisiX]

Guys chill the hell out. farkin......

The whole point of this thread was the OP stating he didn't realize the car would take so damn long (it sucks I know) and canceled.

He's now considering his options. Lets get back on topic because he has plenty of info on the GTI vs R32 option.

What else is out there? Second hand 08 S3 perhaps.. keep it for a year or so and re evaluate.

[paolob]

i think it depends if you plan to mod the car or keep it stock. If you plan to mod the car then i dont think the gti is worth it and the extra $ should be put into the golf r but if you plan to keep stock then i guess go for the new gti.

if i had another chance, i would probably choose the r32 and do some tasteful mods like a capristo exhaust like what frenchie has done over at golfmkv forums or go supercharger or turbo (which i have seen in person) but thats big money again.

all in all i wouldn't go for the mk6 gti just because the golf r has alot more potential with none of the downfalls of wheelspin or axle tramp.

My pirelli is enough and will be crazyyyyy once i get all the hardware neccessary for the giac extreme flash

[Dubya]

Theres plenty of people willing to buy this "abomination".

So?

A lot of people bought the P76. And the Hummer.

Popularity has never been a reliable indicator of anything other than popularity.

Since when was efficiency and the environment a key consideration for buyers of cars like the R32 and GTI?

As for the environment, I do not know where you gain your insights but that is a big call to make about Golf drivers.

I suspect quite a few GTI owners were swayed from the abominable R32 to the frugal GTI by its far better fuel efficiency.

[lawsy82]

That's pretty painful if you have to begin the wait again after all this time. Hope you're patient! Bit of a catch 22 going for a MY10, as the year would be half over by the time you get it.

How much was the GTI you spec'd up? If you ticked too many boxes you should just i'd just consider an S3/R32, won't be disappointed & R32's are a good price for something pretty new.

My GTI RRP was around $51K, I got it on the road for about $46,500 on the top of my head - Had ACC, 18's, Camera etc

I have looked a few R32's on carsales, and there is not many which kinda sux!!! I have seen a few people mention the GEN 2 controller as a good mod for a R32. Any ideas of the KW output once this is fitted? I presume this is like a ECU reflash?? Is that correct

The R32 I have found, that ticks my boxes is a Blue, 3 door, DSG, recaro seats, 21,00klms and asking $45K - which is slightly high as most people are asking around $40K..... Seems like fair price for a car that was $65K 2 years ago...

Thanks for all the replies

[MaccaTSI]

How much do you want to spend? BMW 135i is a wicked car, would love to get one of those! That or an S3 are my top atm (apart from the GTI of course)

I went through a similar situation in 08. Ordered a Clio 197 with xenons in August that was supposed to arrive nov/dec. In October it got delayed a month, in January it got delayed again. I cancelled the order in February, just a ridiculous amount of time, with no information!

Anyway, worked out for the better cos I love my 118TSI, you get so much more car for the money.

And it seems Renault can't give the Clios away!

[ENERG1]

No such things as mistakes LAWSY82 just experiences!!

Just learn from them

Save up some more cash and buy the golf R

The R32 is a brilliant car and if you want new, the golf R will soon be here

Have some PATIENCE mate.

[Dubya]

You wrote all the same stuff in the leather thread and I noticed you just pasted it in here. I fixed the misquote problem yesterday if you bothered to check.

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newf...9&postcount=45

If I "bothered" to check whether you had fixed your mistakes? Why would you expect me to check?

But one more time, G-rig:

1. None of the quotes of mine you have included in this thread and purport to be from this thread are from this thread; and

2. Even those "quotes" from the other thread you pasted in here contain words I did not write.