118TSI - General Discussion

[cktsi]

Isn't this a little too late?

Volkswagen quality concerns

Hopefully Golf 7 owners will have a much better experience than we did.

[Mountainman]

That was a genuine Samsung holder for the Galaxy S2. Was great. Only now I've got the Galaxy S3 4G.


Just because the engine had some problems or was expensive I wouldn't call it that bad (this is the *Appreciation thread* remember, there are other threads).
There must be plenty of other 'normal' owners of these cars who don't post on forums and so on who haven't had any issues.

I bet there isn't anyone in Australia who has managed to reach 100,000km without major engine trouble with the 118 TSI and they should be designed to go three times that distance. Their Jap opposition do that easily. A fantastic engine when performing as it was designed but an owner's nightmare. It's really added to VW's poor reputation in Australia for reliability.

[Ryan_R]

Good point, although I haven't seen any MK6's north of 100k yet at all.

[jessv3]

Re: 118TSI - Appreciation & Thoughts

Good point, although I haven't seen any MK6's north of 100k yet at all.

My parents have 140k on their 2010 mk6 2.0tdi dsg, and the engine is as tight and smooth as it was when new, the only problem they've had is an a.c compressor which just failed but was replaced under warranty..

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[Diesel_vert]

My parents have 140k on their 2010 mk6 2.0tdi dsg, and the engine is as tight and smooth as it was when new, the only problem they've had is an a.c compressor which just failed but was replaced under warranty.

It probably helps that their car isn't a 118TSI with the 7-speed DSG.

[Mountainman]

Good point, although I haven't seen any MK6's north of 100k yet at all.

My brother's Jetta 118 TSI DSG bought new in late 09 has just hit 110,000km and has had a complete engine replacement (just over 50,000km), then new pistons and rings (95,000km) as well as 2 clutch packs and a mechatronics replacement, all under warranty. I reckon VW didn't make much on that sale.

[Rawcpoppa]

118TSI - Appreciation & Thoughts

I think older 118 had bad spark plugs leading to misfires that weren't detected by the driver. Years down the road engine failure. Haven't really heard of engines with the new spark plugs getting this issue.


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[Sentinel]

I've had the pistons and injectors replaced, but as far as I can tell I still have the old spark plugs. I need to do something about that.

[Rawcpoppa]

118TSI - Appreciation & Thoughts

I've had the pistons and injectors replaced, but as far as I can tell I still have the old spark plugs. I need to do something about that.

A thing to note is that you can change the gap on them and you would be ok. The gap should be 0.8 mm according to Vw. Older plugs came gapped at 0.9 mm


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[Mountainman]

I think older 118 had bad spark plugs leading to misfires that weren't detected by the driver. Years down the road engine failure. Haven't really heard of engines with the new spark plugs getting this issue.

The spark plugs were the first thing to be replaced with the new type long before it had to get the first new motor. One positive thing was how good the sevice people were trying to solve the problems. Even then the new engine replaced in 2011 didn't last as long as the original. Surely VW must have done long term tests on these engines before releasing them onto the market? Such a nice car when things are going right too but one day he will not be able to keep forgiving.

[brad]

A thing to note is that you can change the gap on them and you would be ok. The gap should be 0.8 mm according to Vw. Older plugs came gapped at 0.9 mm


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If 0.1mm (0.004"??) is the difference between the engine grenading & staying together then it must be more finely tuned than an F1 engine.

[Rawcpoppa]

118TSI - Appreciation & Thoughts

If 0.1mm (0.004"??) is the difference between the engine grenading & staying together then it must be more finely tuned than an F1 engine.

The misfire that occurs is very small. Mostly unnoticed by the driver. An engine that is seemingly running fine is misfiring unbeknownst to the owner and is being damaged slowly. Spark plugs are finely tuned things anyway. 2mm is a lot with spark plugs.


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[cktsi]

Latest JD power results...

The most dependable cars

I can imagine VW's result being a lot worse if they used the 118tsi engine in the US.

I reckon the old 2.5 NA engine they use is artificially suppressing their faults per car figure when compared to the quality of their average vehicle sold globally. I also believe their Golf doesnt use the DQ200 DSG but the slushbox... Which further artificially deflates their faults compared to what is offered in the moajority of countries.

[Ryan_R]

I better start saving up for a Lexus or Porsche then

[Cavill]

I agree

It probably helps that their car isn't a 118TSI with the 7-speed DSG.