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Timing chain and tensioner discussion and issues

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  • #16
    That is poor from VW..considering how it sounded from your video. I'm booked in at VW Fivedock on the 7th Oct for assessment of mine...

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    • #17
      Dodgy dealership. There is a TPI on this and they should have inquired with VW Australia for the funds to repair on good will.

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      • #18
        Picked the car up on Saturday morning after leaving it with Audi since Thursday afternoon - chain rattle fixed and im $950 poorer. Couldn't be bothered playing games with VW (my local dealer in particular is difficult), so Audi replaced the tensioner, metal timing case cover plate + bolts, crank bolt, and one of the plastic chain guides for me. There was also some special gasket/sealant on the invoice too which i understand is for sealing the cover plate.

        Now i can rest easy knowing that my engine has the updated parts fitted to it. List of parts fitted shown below:

        Last edited by Lucas_R; 23-10-2014, 12:28 PM.
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        • #19
          Glad you got it sorted in the end. $950 aint too bad when it could have been a new engine cost.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by kroogz View Post
            Glad you got it sorted in the end. $950 aint too bad when it could have been a new engine cost.
            True - worse case scenario the timing chain skips, then valves hit the pistons which would require new pistons, valves and head work + labour of course. Probably $5,000-6,000 in a repair like that once you factor in the labour.

            It's worth it just for the peace of mind. Hope you have better luck with VW than i did.
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            • #21
              Quick update finally on my chain tensioner issue...took to VW Fivedock left car overnight, but they claimed couldn't hear the rattle so got no further with them. Then booked my car in with Jack from Beyond Limit Autos in Rydalmere. He fitted the new chain tensioner part, oil pump chain tensioner and also a cam follower. Rattle appears to have gone, touch wood!! Can't recommend his services enough, very professional and offered loan car. Thanks for recommendation Lucas R. At least I have the piece of mind now...happy!!

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              • #22
                ^ nice one mate. How much did it set you back in the end with Beyond Limit? Given you had the oil pump tensioner done too im guessing it was a bit more than most have spent - but worth it for peace of mind.

                Have you got a full list of part/part numbers that were replaced - it might be helpful to others. I need to upload mine too.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Roboash View Post
                  Quick update finally on my chain tensioner issue...took to VW Fivedock left car overnight, but they claimed couldn't hear the rattle so got no further with them. Then booked my car in with Jack from Beyond Limit Autos in Rydalmere. He fitted the new chain tensioner part, oil pump chain tensioner and also a cam follower. Rattle appears to have gone, touch wood!! Can't recommend his services enough, very professional and offered loan car. Thanks for recommendation Lucas R. At least I have the piece of mind now...happy!!
                  care to share with us how much a job like this is going to set someone back..... im sure there will be a few of these kind of issues popping up soon
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                  • #24
                    ^ mine was $950
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                    • #25
                      that's not a bad price considering the amount of work that needs to be done.... that's not at mates rate either is it?
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                      • #26
                        Hi sorry for delayed reply. It set me back $1150 in total for the new supply/fitting of new tensioner (06K109467K), seals, crank bolt and new timing case ($263 alone,which is more than the cost of actual tensioner) including replaced oil pump chain tensioner, had to drain oil and now running Liqui Moly 4200 5w/30 (recommended by Jack) and also cam fuel follower replaced. Engine sounds like new again!!!

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Pilot View Post
                          Mine had a belt 09 118tsi, (upgraded to chain at 30,000)

                          The early 09 mk6 118's had a belt
                          Is this possible?? I have never heard of it.

                          I know the new EA211 1.4 engines in the Mk7 Golf have switched back to belt drive but their design is nothing to do with the earlier 1.4 engines.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Mountainman View Post
                            Is this possible?? I have never heard of it.

                            I know the new EA211 1.4 engines in the Mk7 Golf have switched back to belt drive but their design is nothing to do with the earlier 1.4 engines.
                            Mine is a gen1 mk6... Apparently it is according to VW service records and local VW dealer

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Mountainman View Post
                              Is this possible?? I have never heard of it.

                              I know the new EA211 1.4 engines in the Mk7 Golf have switched back to belt drive but their design is nothing to do with the earlier 1.4 engines.
                              Sounds like BS to me.

                              I can't say I've ever heard of a production engine being converted from belt drive to chain or vice-versa as part of a factory TSB.

                              A truly LOL-worthy post.
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                              • #30
                                when I went to VW Springwood QLD service to enquire about timing chain tensioner replacement costs for labour and parts, first thing the supposedly knowledgeable VW service employee said 'golf mk6 gti, doesn't it use a timing belt?'. he promised he would give me a call. a day later, 2 days later, 3 weeks later; not a single phone call. THANK YOU VW SPRINGWOOD QLD, YOU HAVE THE BEST CUSTOMER SERVICE OFFICER IN THE COUNTRY!

                                i remember the same guy at that service place, when i took my tiguan for service more than a 18 months ago and he was not able to tell me what the loan car model was (passat) as he was standing in front of it handing me the key.

                                i am aware not everyone likes or does well at their job and some are really good and full of knowledge. but not this one.
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