No acceleration while braking!

[maca]

=P it doesnt stop burnouts

Also, this doesnt happen in the auto, i can use both at once, probably a DSG thing

Hmm that's interesting to know.. You'd think it'd be uniform over all non-manual gear boxes..

[mrx]

Umm, yes I know it is there by design. But flawed design - it is interfering with my rally driving!

[maca]

Umm, yes I know it is there by design. But flawed design - it is interfering with my rally driving!

Rofl! Go buy an Evo then.. Traitor

[Maverick]

Hmm that's interesting to know.. You'd think it'd be uniform over all non-manual gear boxes..

The DSG is a manual gearbox!

[maca]

The DSG is a manual gearbox!

Was waiting for someone to bring that up! But i'm sure everyone else knew what I meant =P (Conventional Manual - Not a manual with automatic characteristics)

[kryten2001]

Hey guys.

I had an old Mk5 trendline (base 2005 model) in auto - and this car definately also did it. If you held your foot on the brake, absolutely no acceleration.

I actually found out quite by accident, and in the worse way. The brake light switch on the car went faulty (locked on), so the car would start/idle, but couldn't accelerate... I had to idle away from the lights and park it when it happened...

So yeah, definately on the standard autos - at least from 2005. Brakes on, no accelerator....

Certainly isnt' the case with the DSG on my GTI.. Launch control on or off, ESP on or off, it doesn't seem to do this.

[gareth_oau]

my manual S3 also loses accelerator when you brake - not just an automatic feature

[giveway]

My understanding it is a drive by wire safety override feature.

If you are accelerating and hit the brake it is a precaution that there is a fault with the throttle by wire and cuts the power.

You will notice if you brake into a corner and hold the brakes on you can then accelerate while the brake is on. It is just a matter of which pedal was pressed first.

It is mildly annoying because in a nice set of twisties i like to left foot brake to shift the weight around.

I can't remember if i have tried it without the ESP on.

Edit: Same with ESP off

[SoVeReIgN]

All VW/Audi drive by wire cars do this - Auto/manual/whatever.

Bit annoying but you learn, you can still blip the throttle while you're breaking you just can't tap the brake while accelerating.

[POLARBEAR666]

But you need to be able to brake while accelerating so that you can momentarily shift the weight of the car to the front before you get to a corner where you need lots of grip.

Even if you don't intend on slowing down a lot you should dab them to shift weight to the front wheels to increase grip and reduce chance of understeer (note this technique is helpful only on right angle corners, obviously on sweeping bends you would already have enough front end grip to make it around).

In the escort cosworth's that raced at bathurst the technique that worked best was keeping it floored even while braking so that the HUGE turbo running 40psi didn't come off boost. crazy! Was in the days before proper antilag systems and such.

[Guy_H]

APR Have track specific applications for this (enable left foot braking) - its all in the software coding!

[Silver Caravelle]

My Multivan TDI tiptronic also does it. It appears to be speed and brake pedal pressure dependant, tending to do it with a light blip of the brake pedal at lowish speeds and then nothing resulting from the accelerator. Release the brake pedal and acceleration is restored.

But it has almost lead to accidents on at least two ocassions at intersections and roundabouts with no acceleration momentarily, as I was probably riding the brake pedal momentarily at the same time. .

Need to be careful in such situations.

Regards,

Scott

[giveway]

APR Have track specific applications for this (enable left foot braking) - its all in the software coding!

Could this be switchable with a APR tune ?
eg like selecting valet,std, mode

[Mr Messy]

In the escort cosworth's that raced at bathurst the technique that worked best was keeping it floored even while braking so that the HUGE turbo running 40psi didn't come off boost. crazy! Was in the days before proper antilag systems and such.

I sometimes drive like this in my MK4 so it doesn't come off boost. Not full throttle tho, just a little with left foot on the brakes.

In two pedal cars I only left foot brake, and yeah, VW DSG is a biatch for it.

[Guy_H]

Could this be switchable with a APR tune ?
eg like selecting valet,std, mode

I think we could switch it on or off - we have some new files just built for this purpose yesterday - will test this tomorrow. (Pirelli GTI we have just done the code for)